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		<title>Has the sun set on solar power?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 07:03:00 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Anyone read this over the weekend?<br /><br />http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/money/Consumer/article1260843.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_05_18]]>
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		<title>50kW turbine installation costs.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 11:33:57 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>gustyturbine</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi,<br />A friend has been approached by a company wanting to install a 50kW turbine on his farm. Planning should be fine as the farm next to him has fitted one already. Thjey have told him that all costs (£350,000) would be paid for by the company. The grid connection would go over his land for around .5 miles. Does the installation cost seem high at all? If the cost was lower he may try and fund it himself.<br />I am used to the larger scale turbine operation and the MW price installed is much cheaper then than £350,000 for 50kw quoted although I can understand why to a degree.<br />What is the opinion of the wind turbine operators we have on the forum? Does £350,000 seem high to them. The turbine is Endurance.<br />Many thanks.]]>
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		<title>Should I buy thermodynamic solar panels now without RHI?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>peterpanel22</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hello I have been contacted by a company called SKS Thermodynamics and are calling their system revolutionary but is it revolutionary like the salesmen said??<br /><br />Is it making solar thermal look like yesterday's technology? as this works all year round therefore you do not rely on secondary source.<br /><br />Their website looks professional but not sure to go ahead with them <a href="<a href="http://www.sks-thermo.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.sks-thermo.co.uk</a>" >. Does anyone have any experience with this company?? I found a few positive reviews of them.<br /><br />Also they said this system qualifies for the RHI but it does not come into action until summer 2012, but I do not know how much I would get.<br /><br />The price they quoted was just above £6000 for this for my needs, how long will it take to get an ROI?<br /><br />Sorry for multiple questions, me and my partner are in this dilema and I could not find any information to this as this is a new thing, and having free hot water heating really would help us out.<br /><br /> :neutral:</a>]]>
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		<title>TP enter the renewables market</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:49:23 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Triassic</author>
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			<![CDATA[I keep getting e-mails from TP about them entering the renewables market. <br /><br />Can't say I’m very enthusiastic?! Can't imagine what they will bring to the table, lower prices?]]>
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		<title>Second-hand wind turbines</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 22:30:02 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[Is there any market for second-hand small turbines? Anyone got any idea how much a 2.5 Proven with 11 metre mast would be, second-hand (excl inverter)?]]>
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		<title>Solar Panel Brise Soleil</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:48:33 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>ferdinand2000</author>
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			<![CDATA[Good morning everyone.<br /><br />I'm looking for thoughts on mounting solar panels directly on a house wall, or building a supporting &quot;porch&quot;.We don't have any *really* suitable roofs for PV in our new house, so I'm wondering about a solar brise soleil made of PV solar panels along across our garage and front door - about 8-9m run.<br /><br />The only one I have seen was in the episode of Grand Designs called Stealth House, here:<br />http://tinyurl.com/brisesoleil<br /><br />This is our southern facade. It is a reasonably well specified recent (2009) conversion of a 1940s bungalow, reduced to 3 outside walls and rebuilt inside. Unfortunately that row of lime trees along our eastern boundary are TPO'd.<br />http://tinyurl.com/ferdinandfacade<br /><br />I quite like the idea of having it 12 feet off the ground rather than 25, for installation, maintenance and for the convenient jet washing of pigeon poo. The electric meters are in the garage, so cabling etc will be simple.<br /><br />Does anyone have any experience of doing anything similar, or thoughts on the idea?<br /><br />Thanks in advance.<br /><br />Ferdinand]]>
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		<title>PV-T</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Combined solar pv with solar thermal and cooling of the solar when it gets hot and looses output?<br /><br />Seems they dump heat in the summer to increase pv efficiency/output by cooling the panels]]>
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		<title>Do you think I can get planning...</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:18:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Sprocket</author>
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			<![CDATA[... for a few of these?<br /><br />http://eetimes.com/electronics-news/4412642/IBM-Airlight-boost-solar-energy-10X<br /><br />Though, am I missing something?<br />Don't you think they sound a bit big for 25kW?<br /><br />25kW of regular 20% efficient PV isn't all that large.<br /><br />So with micro-fluidic cooling and 80% efficient triple-junction PV cells I would expect to get 25kW from something more like the size of a suitcase.]]>
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		<title>Official C &amp; F turbine AEPs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>gavstamp</author>
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			<![CDATA[Has anyone seen the official C &amp; F wind turbine AEPs? I have been trying desperately to see what these turbines can do but cannot find any of their official MCS data. Can anyone help?]]>
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		<title>suitable panels for drain back system</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:07:33 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>mightyworthit</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi again,<br />Please a little advice, does any one know if any solar thermal panel is suitable for use in drainback system?<br />My seraches so far have informed me that evacuated tubes are not ideal but can be used. Flat panels are beter but are restricted to a parallel?? internal pipe configuration as opposed to a meandering layout. Meandering layouts do not drain back fully so present a risk...is this so?<br />Are there any other things I should be looking for?<br />I have already purchased some worcester bosch greenskies fkt panels off ebay but i believe these meander and the man at bosch said that they have not been tested in a drainback system and wouold therefore be unsuitable.<br />If I wish to use a drainback system will I have to buy some different panels?<br />I am looking second hand, in ebay, preloved etc.<br /><br />Many thank<br />tim]]>
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		<title>Fine Energy, any information please.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:54:19 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>gustyturbine</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi,<br />A friend of mine has been approached by Fine Energy with regards to the installation of a small turbine. Their web page states that they install Endurance machines. I am in the big turbine game so this is not my boat. Anyone know of Fine Enery? I have heard that Endurance are pretty good. Again, any pointers or problems I should mention? The usual blade issues etc. Was it Endurance that had the recent blade problems?<br />Many thanks.]]>
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		<title>Energy Storage - publications</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:38:44 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thought I'd start a new topic - a repository for links to and info about publications on Energy Storage, which hopefully can be continuously added to and will stay somewhere on the first page of the Forum - even as a Sticky, Keith?<br />Can include brief outline of what it's about and why significant. <br />But this topic should NOT be used for discussion about energy storage - it should just be a concise resource - a library index, kind of.]]>
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		<title>Tidal lagoons</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:07:40 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Why haven't we got any yet?<br /><br />They would be able to provide energy at constant rates in linked in pairs (high and low) would be in the sea do not look ugly like wind, have a lot going for them.]]>
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		<title>Nuclear reactions in Compact Fluorescent Bulbs?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[Not sure where to put this but...<br /><br />It seems that something is changing the mercury in the bulbs and it might be an unexpected nuclear reaction...<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2013/03/14/tiny-nuclear-reactions-inside-compact-fluorescent-bulbs/<br /><br />&quot;Harmless low-energy nuclear reactions may be taking place routinely inside of compact fluorescent lightbulbs, according to a physicist whose theories have NASA researchers abuzz with the prospect of cheap, non-polluting energy.&quot;]]>
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		<title>Small/Micro Wind Turbines</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Billy-J</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hello,<br /><br />I was wondering if anyone on here has a small/micro wind turbine? <br />When I say small I mean something that could power your average house and be grid connected directly not via batteries.]]>
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		<title>Dissertation research: wind turbines upto 100kW</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>pbib</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hello everyone, <br />I am researching public perceptions of smaller wind turbines and I would be grateful for your views on this subject.<br />There are only ten questions, but they are open so please feel free to voice your opinions. You don`t have to have had any experience with wind turbines to complete the survey it is just about perceptions. It is totally anonymous and there are no personal questions.<br />I hope you find the questions stimulating and I will of course post the findings of my dissertation which members may find useful, (or at least start a lively debate !)<br />Again many thanks for your participation.<br /><br />To access the survey copy and paste the following link<br />http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NGXJ79H]]>
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		<title>A Bag of Wind</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Triassic</author>
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			<![CDATA[<b >New wind energy record for Great Britain</b><br /><br />4 February 2013<br /><br />A record amount of electricity has been generated by wind energy in Great Britain, according to National Grid.<br /><br />The new high was reached on Sunday morning, when wind generated more than 5 gigawatts for the first time – more than 12% of the nation’s electricity needs for industry, businesses and households – enough to power more than ten million British homes.<br /><br />It’s the first time that wind energy has exceeded the 5 gigawatt threshold in Britain.<br /><br />RenewableUK’s Deputy Chief Executive Maf Smith said:<br /><br />“This new record proves that Britain is generating an increasingly significant amount of clean electricity from wind. The quantity of low-carbon energy that wind is feeding into the grid is continuing to surge upwards. We’re set to generate at least 15% of the UK’s electricity from wind by 2020. <br /><br />http://www.renewableuk.com/en/news/press-releases.cfm/2013-02-04-new-wind-energy-record-for-great-britain]]>
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		<title>Wind farm noise in court</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:37:49 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[Wind farm noise goes to court..<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011162/Wind-farms-whoom-whoom-whoom-noise-drove-mad-farmers-claiming-3m-tell-High-Court.html<br /><br />Quote: <br />Lawyers for the couple say they are now seeking an injunction to bring about modification of the operation of the  wind farm, plus some £400,000 damages to compensate them for the noise nuisance that has blighted their lives.<br /><br />Also in the Telegraph..<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/8615569/Noisy-wind-farm-drove-couple-out-of-their-home.html<br /> <br />and The Times but that's subscription only.]]>
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		<title>Built in-situ solar thermal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Henry Sears</author>
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			<![CDATA[I would like to take the opportunity to build solar thermal onto a new south facing roof in place of roof covering.<br /><br />I remember Viking House mentioning this as something he does, but can't find the thread now. Can anyone point me in the right direction, or help with other sources of information on this, please?<br /><br />Ta,<br /><br />Henry]]>
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		<title>Heating with wind turbine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[Any advice for this poster on another forum? In particular how to meet SAP when using the output from a turbine to drive an immersion heater. Is the SAP assessor correct? <br /><br />http://www.ebuild.co.uk/topic/11828-advice-needed-please-re-heating-with-wind-turbine/<br /><br />Quote:<br /><br />The SAP assessor has just informed us that the house will fail as it stands, because of using an immersion heater. It would only pass if we either installed an air source heat pump or:<br /> <br />To enable the dwelling to pass using electric space/water heating the following would be required:•Electric under floor heating throughout<br /><br />•Electric instantaneous water heating<br /><br />•100% low energy light fittings<br /><br />•Pressure test at 3.8]]>
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		<title>Solar PV slates</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Triassic</author>
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			<![CDATA[I live in National Park and I'm looking to replace our dilapidated bungalow at some stage, so I'm starting to plan the replacement. <br /><br />At Ecobuild I noticed a company selling solar PV slates, sand blasted to a matt dark grey finish so as to blend in with the surrounding natural slates. Unfortunately I failed to get the companies details. As our proposed PV will be on the front of the house facing the road, I have a feeling the planner will have something to say and my wife hates the shiny look of standard PV panels, I was thinking of using matt PV tiles to reduce the visual impact.<br /><br />Anyone got any thoughts on sand blasted panels, will the matt finish affect the output, are sand blasted panels a good idea?]]>
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		<title>PV cold calls</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[A cold-caller has just told me that I could make up to £1700 p.a.  from 'solar panels'. I have not yet calculated the size of array which would be required to generate that sort of FiT income, but I am sure my roof is not big enough..... Interestingly, they hung up as soon as I told them I was aware of the dramatic reduction in FiTs.]]>
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		<title>RHI</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Just seen this about the new rules being proposed for the RHI, looks like it is not going to be quite as good as people hoped:<br /><br />http://www.treco.co.uk/blog/2013/03/06/<br /><br />&quot;Other changes to the RHI announced on Wednesday include flexible tariffs to control the budget of the scheme, sustainability requirements for new and existing biomass installations, tariff reviews, and the simplification of metering requirements.&quot;<br /><br />Seems to me they can pull the plug on it if they feel like it.<br /><br />Also heard on the news that there is going to be a review about biomass in general (Scotland has already had a debate on it)<br /><br />http://www.foe-scotland.org.uk/news150113<br /><br />All interesting stuff going on.]]>
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		<title>Solar decision and other technical questions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Pile-o-Stone</author>
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			<![CDATA[I wonder if the knowledgeable folk on here can help.<br /><br />I live in a listed building and so I can't put solar panels on the south facing roof of the house. I can however put panels onto an outbuilding at the rear of the house, but its roof is east west facing. The roof is also shaded by the house in the winter months when the sun is low, I guess from November to Feb. I have a heatbank connected to mains gas and to a multi-fuel stove. The heatbank has an unused solar coil installed.<br /><br />The questions are:<br /><br />1. Am I better to install solar water heating connected to the solar coil (with a buried solar duo pipe between the house and the outbuilding, or better to install solar PV with a buried cable between the house and outbuilding?<br /><br />My thoughts are that solar thermal is a much more efficient way to heat water, but PV gives me a wider range of uses and I can export unused electricity to the heatbank via an immersion heater (there is an unused immersion heater boss low down on the heatbank that I could use - separate from a higher immersion heater connected to mains).<br /><br />2. The west facing roof of the outbuilding receives sun for about an hour longer, so should I go for panels on both sides of the roof or just on the Western side? <br /><br />3. If I opt for solar water heating, does anyone know if I would have problems with heat loss by burying the solar duo pipes underground between the house and outbuilding? I measure the run of the pipe to be 20 meters underground.]]>
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		<title>Wind turbine planning permission</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>renewablejohn</author>
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			<![CDATA[Can councils legally restrict the maximum size of wind turbines. The largest turbine approved to date by our local authority is only 20kw. Only 3km away in another local authority 12 x 1.5MW turbines have been installed. In the last 12 months I know of 4 applications for 500kw turbines all being rejected and have been advised to hold back on my application for 2 x 250kw turbines until after the 500kw have gone to appeal. I do not hold my breath for the appeal process as previously 2 x 1.5MW turbines where rejected which is ironic as the new wind farm of 12 turbines agreed subsequently is less than 1km from the original site but with a different authority.<br />Would a mobile wind turbine be exempt from all this planning nonsense]]>
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		<title>Waste Inceneration Plants</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:18:10 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[I am scared rigid by the pollution and air quality of these plants yet they seem to be getting the thumbs up.]]>
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		<title>Solar PV kit for Spain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>colin440</author>
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			<![CDATA[Which companies in the UK are recommended to buy the complete Solar PV kit from? I see Navitron mentioned a few times, but curious on any others. <br />I don't skill or knowledge (or time!) to research and build the kit myself so looking for a good supplier. This is for a house in Southern Spain and would be shipped out with some other items from the UK. <br /><br />The Solar requirements would be to power lights/TV/laptop/ but more importantly run the water pumps for the underfloor heating (and I think I will need an electric pump for the 24 tube solar collector for DHW (as can't really be positioned above the thermal store on 2nd floor). I think I need around 2500Wh/day from a system, but any advice is appreciated. thanks]]>
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		<title>PV off grid direct connection to an immersion heater</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>welshjim99</author>
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			<![CDATA[Now that the cost of PV is coming down (~50p/watt) and the FIT is not as attractive as it was and I am not MCS approved, I have coonected 1kW of PV direct to my 3kW 240VAC immersion heater, that is approx 120V DC.<br />Yes it works but its effectiveness I assume is governed by the I*I*t relationship (Joules Law?), bearing this in mind I am assuming either a MPPT or switchable 120V battery bank between the PV and immersion would help, to ensure max current is going to the immersion in bursts rather than low current trickle charge throughout the day?<br />I am new to the forum, I have looked but cannot  find this in any previous threads.<br />Thanks]]>
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		<title>Free heat from PV inverter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>jms452</author>
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			<![CDATA[When our PV was fitted we decided to put the inverter inside the house (rather than the in the loft).<br /><br />At the time this was because lofts can get hot and many of the failure modes of inverters seemed to be due to over temperature. It also made fixing/replacing the inverter easier (and hopefully cheaper) if and when it breaks.<br /><br />However I have since realised that between October and March we get about 100kWh of heat from the inefficiencies within the inverter.<br /><br />I know this is small fry but given our (i.e. GBF's) tendency to worry about things like air leakage through key holes 100kWh is actually quite a lot of free heat. To put this into perspective 100kWh over 6 month is ~20W - The same power consumption as a decent MVHR...<br /><br />SAP2009 asks if the central heating pump is within the heated space (presumably for this reason) but doesn't care about the PV inverter.<br /><br />Is this detail ever considered - I think it should be.<br /><br />Discuss!]]>
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		<title>Solar panel planning nightmare!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:08:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>EmmaG</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi, I have installed solar panels to my roof, operational for only 1 day before being asked to remove them/apply for retrospective planning by friendly local council! I pointed out the legislation under which they are a permitted development - they agreed, but said I didnt meet the conditions thereof as &quot;they affected the amenity of area &amp; appearance of building&quot;. I pointed out the term &quot;as far as is practicable&quot; &amp; that there was no other practicable option. HOWEVER, they say: <br /><br />&quot;You are interpreting the phrase &quot;so far as practicable&quot; in relation to the efficiency of the installation however this term refers to whether or not the panels can be installed in such a way as to minimise the effect on the building/amenity of the area.  For example to comply with these conditions we would usually expect the installation of solar panels on a mid-terraced property to be on the rear rather than the principal elevation.  Whilst most properties benefit from permitted development rights not all householders are able to utilise them.&quot;<br /><br />Does anyone have any ideas where I go with this next?? I did (&amp; do) truly believe I am in the right here!<br />I have already copied in her boss, so presumably he agrees with her (shes an enforcement officer)<br /><br />Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks<br />:cry:]]>
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		<title>Wood Gasification (Log) Boiler Experience?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:33:18 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>edwinvanek</author>
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			<![CDATA[Over the last 6 months we have been considering the replacement our old oil fired central heating boiler with a log boiler as both our tank and boiler need to be replaced over the next few years. We have compared alsmost every manyfacturer available (Dragon, Atmos, Vigas, Froeling, Hoval, Baxi, Mescoli, Viesman, ETA, Herz, Biotherm, Treco, etc) and haven''t been able to make a decicion yet. Recently we started thinking about keeping the oil fired central heating and adding two wood stoves, one connected to the warm water tank. <br />My preferde boiler would be the Austrian ETA boiler which I have seen in operationa t various locations in Germany, but the boiler itself without heat store and other component, flue and installation is close to 6K, which is too much. The middle way would be a Baxi Solo Inova. Does anybody have any experience with Vigas and Atmos boilers, which are the most economically priced boilers. The pros are: renewable ennergy, affordable fuel the cons are: costly, not as instantly controlable as oil and gas, bulky and expensive to install. <br /><br />Before finally making my mind up I was wondering weather anybody who has already installe a log gasification boiler would be willing to share their experiences and or frustrations?<br /><br />Edwin]]>
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		<title>Outstanding solar thermal collector performance too good to be true?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:45:47 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Jeremy S</author>
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			<![CDATA[We are in the middle (or, hopefully, near the end!) of specifying a solar thermal installation for a new build - we're pretty much decided on 5-15sq_m of collectors (scaling over time), with PV powered 12V DC pump and controller as indirect supply to 800L store (with future contingency for wood/pellet stove). DHW will be mains via coil in store, with top up from in-line electric heating (Zip CEX).<br /><br />I've been researching collectors - both flat plate and evacuated tubes - and using efficiency as a function of mean panel temperature [Tm: 10-90degC] and global radiation [G: 300-1000W/sq_m] as a means of comparison (calculated from eta0, a1,&amp; a2 per method in EN12975/Solar Keymark).  As might be expected, the resulting plots exhibit two main trends corresponding to tubes and flat plates and, generally speaking, there's not a great deal to choose between the particular models in each group, although some (older?) models are definitely perform more poorly...<br /><br />EXCEPT: there is one product that appears to perform as well or significantly better than it's competitors, being a clear outlier on the graphs; comparing efficiency, across the ranges I've looked at, against the mean of the other 27 units, one product exhibits between 0 &amp; 60% better performance.<br /><br />So, why isn't everyone raving about Baxi Solarflo tubes?<br /><br />Since this is a clear outlier, I was initially sceptical; the data I've used are drawn from product brochures; in some cases manufacturers publish the actual EN12975 reports. I obtained the EN12975 report from Baxi and the test results are indeed as presented in the brochure.  When I've figured out how to do it, I'll put graphs and data up; in the meantime, anyone who cares to check my calculations (please), get in touch and I'll email the spreadsheet (.ODS format, but can do .XLS). Currently I've gathered data for: Navitron, SusTech, AES, BAXI, Worcester-Bosch, Genersys, Clearline, Dimplex, Consolar, Thermomax, SonnenKraft, &amp; Gasokol.  If anyone cares to suggest others - or better still: post eta0, a1, a2 - I'll add them to the mix; for completeness, the parameters I've collected are: type (plate/tube), aperture area, eta0, a1, a2, IAM50_long, IAM50_lat, H, W, D, kg.<br /><br />Finally, I'd welcome advice on other important performance measures, e.g. when does stagnation temperature become critical? should we be lobbying for all manufacturers to present the off-axis correction factor (IAM50)?<br /><br />Best wishes - Jeremy]]>
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		<title>Solar Thermal Panels</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>mark jackson</author>
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			<![CDATA[We are looking to install thermal solar panels to our south facing roof. There is so much information to look at and we just need some basic honest advice on type/style and any other info that we may need. Can anyone help?:shamed:]]>
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		<title>feedback on solar thermal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jeremy S</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi,<br /><br />we've had some trouble finding a heating engineer locally with sufficient experience of solar thermal, so I'm hoping for some feedback on our proposed circuit (attached as PDF).<br /><br />We've overspecified the collectors and the store in order to a) gain a greater winter contribution, and b) to offset the lower contribution on frequent cloudy days in western Perthshire.<br /><br />We've been heating our well-insulated and air-tight 57sq.m 2-bedroom cabin with the occasional use of a 2kW electric radiator on the cold (sub-zero) nights - installing a 4kW solid fuel stove (c/w 1kW back-boiler) will a) reduce reliance on electricity, b) contribute to DHW, c) improve air-flow (via window trickle-vents), and d) be cosy!<br /><br />Due to roof pitch and topography, we're intending to install the collectors on a shed some 25m from the store (see below); 12vDC thermal differential control, pump, expansion vesel, and pressure relief will be in the shed, with solar PV alongside the collectors. Thermal store, other valves, and heat exchanger for stagnation-preventing heat dump will be in the cabin.<br /><br />Any comments are welcome, bur specific questions are:<br />1) can anyone recommend a H.E. in 50-mile radius of Crieff?<br />2) are there any safety concerns with the proposed schematic?<br />3) how does a 'filling loop' work? what's the procedure and hence, required plumbing?<br />4) for the 25m run, we thought to not use std s/s corrugated due to pressure loss; should we go for copper and just deal with thermal expansion somehow, or instead use s/s tube at extra expense?<br />5) suggestions for valves?<br /><br />Links to kit:<br />Thermal store: http://jouleuk.co.uk/Cyclone_Thermal_Stores/299<br />Collectors: http://www.kingspansolar.co.uk/products/16/df100.aspx<br />Stove: http://shop.salamanderstoves.com/small-stoves/hobbit-stove<br />Pump: http://www.solarproject.co.uk/page2.html<br />Thermal differential controller: http://www.reuk.co.uk/buy-SOLAR-PUMP-CONTROLLER-CIRCUIT.htm or http://www.solarproject.co.uk/controller%20detail.html<br />Plate heat exchanger: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-Steel-Heat-Exchanger-Plate-Heat-Exchanger-20-Plates-44-kW-/330867777183?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&amp;hash=item4d09419e9f<br /><br />In the longer term, I'm looking to investigate programming a dedicated 12v Linux 'intelligent' controller using Raspberry Pi (http://www.raspberrypi.org/) - see: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=31455&amp;p=272911<br /><br />best wishes - Jeremy]]>
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		<title>PV-T Hybrid system</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>abogas</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi, Has anyone any experience of a PV-T hybrid system being offered by a uk firm (the only one that is MCS certified)<br /><br />Cheers.]]>
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		<title>Wind Turbine &quot;blown over&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>candlemaker</author>
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			<![CDATA[A 35 meter high wind turbine has collapsed in Devon:<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9837026/Wind-turbine-collapses-in-high-wind.html<br /><br />Faulty bolts (my guess)? Reported gusts of 50pmh seem no more than it must have faced over the last 3 years. Again a shame that these things happen and then get blown (excuse the pun) out of proportion. it will be interesting to see what really caused the failure.]]>
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		<title>Gravity Light</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[Nice little idea for lighting without power , lift up a weight ( earth filled bag/ plant pot) and the light runs for 30 minutes (not sure what lumen output is ?) <br />Possible benefit for those in developing world<br /><br />http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/282006<br />&quot;Following the initial inspiration of using gravity, and years of perspiration, we have refined the design and it is now ready for production. We need your help to fund the tooling, manufacture and distribution of at least 1000 gravity powered lights. We will gift them to villagers in both Africa and India to use regularly. The follow-up research will tell us how well the lights met their needs, and enable us to refine the design for a more efficient MK2 version. Once we have proved the design, we will be looking to link with NGOs and partners to distribute it as widely as possible. When mass produced the target cost for this light is less than $5.&quot;]]>
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		<title>Should i stay on mains water.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>woodgnome</author>
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			<![CDATA[My current water bills are about £25 to £30 per month, on a meter. I have a good spring feeding a large pond, which seems to run all year, even in the hot summer...distant memory.<br />My new build will be not too far from it. I was considering using the pond for my GSHP, but still to be decided. If i don't do this, i was thinking about using the spring for our water supply, subject to testing.<br />Anyone done this?  Any ideas on cost of pumps and filters etc. is it worth it?<br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks]]>
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		<title>Evoco wind turbines</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>windymiller</author>
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			<![CDATA[Does anyone have an update on what is happening with Evoco wind turbines?<br /><br />I had heard that they were all switched off (In November last year http://goo.gl/HocLp ) and that there was an owners meeting scheduled before Christmas, but I haven't heard anything about what is happening now. Are people back on? Have any changes been made?<br /><br />I'm a bit surprised that there haven't been lots of angry posts about this....]]>
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		<title>Solar thermal on outbuilding?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Noodle</author>
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			<![CDATA[Just a quick question,<br /><br />As my house is listed and in Dartmoor, solar thermal or PV on the roof is a big no no. I am planning an approx 4kw pv array on one the outbuildings - direct south aspect.<br /><br />Question is can I do the same with solar thermal? Would too much heat be lost over pipe run outside - estimate approx 10 - 15m from outbuilding to proposed location of thermal store. Obviously would propose to highly insulate the pipe run, even bury it 4ft underground it recommended?  I assume the solar thermal doesn't &quot;have&quot; to be higher than the store as its pumped round isn't it?<br /><br />Perhaps daft questions but would be useful to know the answer.<br /><br />Thanks!]]>
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		<title>Confused? What is the main reasons to Buy Renewable Energy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>peterpanel22</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hello,<br /><br />I have been debating over why people buy into renewable technology when it is so expensive especially without grants and incentives?<br /><br />I know it depends on house type and usage, but I want a discussion based majority of people. I have a typical semi detached house with 3.5 bedrooms (32% houses in UK), gas for heating, and normal electric meter. I have a central heating system that is say 7 years old. I have 2 teenaged kids and in my early forties. I have paid 50% of my mortgage, paying it off comfortably (current low interest rate) and have some savings about £20K. We pay about £700 in Gas and £500 (if that) on electric. Using it generously.<br /><br />Are people buying because of incentives attached, or are they really looking at longterm energy security? 10, 20 or 30 years? To me personally I am looking at less than 10 years, god knows what I will be doing after this, I may move.<br /><br />Is the industry eagerly waiting for the new RHI incentive? to motivate people to buy or a people really ready to pay 10-15K and hope to see a return after 15-20years.<br /><br />What is your situation how much would you spend, what would be your max payback time.<br /><br />Is renewable energy mostly beneficially to heavy users?  <br /><br />I think we owe it to confused people and misleading sales people to have a thorough break down.<br /><br />Products I have looked into<br /><br />Solar PV - Electricity<br />Solar Thermal - Heating and Hot Water<br />Biomass - Off Grid heating and water<br />Air to Air - Looks like simple system, for mainly open space living<br />Ground Source - Not sure about this<br />Air to Water - Looks new heats house and water<br />Auto Energy Monitoring System - Does this only help monitor electric or gas? cost/benefit raito?<br />Infrared Panels - New tech, movable, fairly cheap, DIY install<br />Thermodynamics - heats water and now home, no RHI<br />VO5 - Cost/Benefit ratio?<br /><br />What is the average cost range, payback period, savings amount, is it retrofit, grants available, is it now a good time to buy or wait?<br /><br />I know this is massive, but choosing something is confusing, people keeps saying it depends on this and that. Please help me, please help other people.]]>
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		<title>did your PV generate less in 2012?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>sarahhughes</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'd be interested to know if people have compared their 2011 and 2012 power generated - it felt like the sun hardly appeared at all in Manchester last year and it's putting some people off considering solar pv installations ... anyone got any relevant generation figures?<br />thanks<br />Sarah]]>
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		<title>PV futures</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Ed Davies</author>
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			<![CDATA[Currently PV panels are pretty cheap. E.g., Navitron are doing Scheuten 235 W panels at a tiny smidge over 51p/W, incl VAT, so less than 43p/W after a new-build VAT reclaim. MCS approved Kinve panels of the same size are a little more expensive at about 57p/W incl. Maybe they'll get a bit cheaper but I can't help thinking the price can't get much lower unless the design is changed radically (stick-on thin-film or something).<br /><br />At £100/m² they're already cheaper than windows by area, I think. Windows are similar technology but with more oxygen and less doping in one of the layers and no backing plate :-).<br /><br />So, it seems to me that if you can use them immediately then there's no point in waiting - buy now. If, on the other hand, you can't use them for a while it's a difficult question when to buy. Delaying might save a small amount of money but it's entirely possible that the current glut will dry up or EU anti-dumping threats will be acted on or something so the price would go up resulting in bigger losses.<br /><br />Anybody got any up-to-date thoughts on what prices are likely to do this year?]]>
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		<title>UK solar PV</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>owlman</author>
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			<![CDATA[I received this email today I can't vouch for the validity, but interesting nontheless. <br /><br />http://www.evoenergy.co.uk/i/uk-solar-pv/?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=Evoenergy&amp;utm_campaign=2024458_Newsletter+January+2013+Domestic+Prospects&amp;utm_content=infographic&amp;dm_i=QTQ,17E2Y,4IKGSU,42MYU,1]]>
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		<title>energy worth</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>williedrumliah</author>
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			<![CDATA[Does any body know what this is worth if you generate 20000 kwh and export same amount what is this worth, and then do you deduced amount used at what rate.]]>
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		<title>Micro Hydro from spring water powering GSHP</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Pile-o-Stone</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi,<br /><br />Opposite our home is a former mannor house that used to have its water provided by a natural spring. The manor house was connected to the mains many years ago and so the outlet was severed and now empties into a stream that is at the rear of our garden. I've been monitoring the outlet for the last 3 years and it seems to have a constant flow regardless of the season.  I'm seriously thinking of using the water to power a turbine and was wondering if anyone had information on how this can be done technically?<br /><br />We currently have a heatbank connected to a woodburning stove and ma9ins gas condensing boiler (solar is an option but due to shading could only provide HW in summer) and I was wondering if the hydro could be connected to the heatbank either by emersion heater or GSHP?<br /><br />Which would be the better option? I know that GSHP are supposed to have a RHI payment next year and the micro hydro would have a FIT, so would this be the most cost effective solution? What sort of power output would the micro hydro have to produce to power a GSHP?]]>
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		<title>Wind turbine for immersion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Si.min</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi I am attempting to form a long term plan for further additions to house (cost and time to save etc) I would like to know if you can buy a wind turbine to make a direct connection to an immersion heater, heat dump to be used would be the central heating - store is 320litres. I like the &quot;idea&quot; of a 2kw turbine max 3kw output connected to a 3kw immersion with thermostat removed. I am not skilled in electronics oscilloscopes and rectifiers etc so if complex wiring, soldering required I would seek the help of an electrician, but before I get too far ahead of myself and throw other factors in to the mix like location, average wind speed etc Im just trying to see where they are  at, it would be great if you could be sold a kit for an immersion connection with no batteries etc and then get an electrician to complete the setup. Other forums  I have read so far forums seem to talk of installations by people with expertise  who have made up there own units with gains on windy days. ok thanks]]>
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		<title>The &quot;California Array&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>jon</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'm (finally) starting to work up concept details for the spherical solar arrays: Took some time as got bogged down in the historical link.<br /><br />The idea is to form bays of segmented mirror spheres to generate high grade heat to supply turbines for day demand. Excess heat and electricity production can be sent to air fuel synthesis or compressed air storage (for night-time demand). I've put up some 3-D Google Earth concept models in the link below (great fun to play with but not easy to transfer from AutoCAD format)<br /><br />http://flyingoven.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/concept-drawings-california-array.html<br /><br />The spherical idea is inexpensive and good from a land-use perspective. From the figures I got from our test prototypes (long time ago but they're on the forum somewhere), this could potentially supply the USA or Europe with its energy needs (in the future sometime). Technically, there's no dispute about whether or not it could work (largely because a variant on it is already operational at the Auroville Solar Bowl: http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Auroville_Solar_Bowl)<br /><br />Can anyone see a fatal flaw with the arrangement.. a reason why it couldn't work better than the various other large scale solar projects which are being tried?]]>
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		<title>Insurance for small wind turbine</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 10:17:23 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>windy lamb</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'm just about to have a Gaia 11kW turbine installed and maybe I should look at insurance!<br /><br />Don't need it for the installation as that is covered by contractors but does anyone have any pointers to where I should look for operation insurance?]]>
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		<title>Biomass - a burning issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:08:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thought this would be of interest . From the AECB web site<br /><br />Discussion paper<br />http://www.aecb.net/new_releases/detail/?nId=9<br /><br />press release below here<br />http://www.aecb.net/new_releases/detail/?nId=10<br /><br />&quot;Biomass – not a green fuel after all?  <br /><br />Defining biomass as a low-carbon fuel is not only mistaken, it is also the cause of higher carbon dioxide emissions and lower building efficiency, according to a paper published today.   <br /><br />The discussion paper, commissioned by AECB, argues that it is fundamentally wrong to define biomass burning as low-carbon, when burning biomass leads to similar carbon dioxide emissions per unit of heat as burning coal.  <br /><br />As the UK prepares to scale up initiatives encouraging more and more biomass to be used as fuel, the AECB decided that it needed to think more rigorously about the issues arising. While it is true that trees do take up carbon dioxide when they grow, this does not mean that the best use for biomass is to burn it.  <br /><br />Instead, the paper argues, the timber can be left unburnt, and put to other uses - for example, as structural timber or other wood products like insulation. Meanwhile we could use other heat sources, that emit a good deal less carbon dioxide than the trees have absorbed, to provide for the same heat requirements.   <br /><br />There is certainly not enough biomass available to both usefully sequester and burn. The paper does not argue that we can sequester our way out of climate change by planting trees and stimulating wood product industries alone. However it clearly makes the case that burning wood  is one of the least sensible things to do.   <br /><br />The paper, commissioned by AECB from Nick Grant and Alan Clarke, both experienced building energy consultants, shows how the low-carbon definition for biomass burning is used as a &quot;get out of jail free&quot; card in project design – a  biomass boiler then becomes a substitute for good design and energy efficiency. By specifying a biomass boiler, design teams feel they have met their carbon targets, and investing time and budget into efficient, truly low-energy design and construction seems superfluous.  <br /><br />According to the authors, the consequences of current mainstream thinking on biomass as a fuel leads to a ‘lose-lose-lose’ situation:   <br /><br />·        Once when the biomass is burnt, releasing twice as much carbon as burning gas for the same heat output <br /><br />·        Again when the building leaks energy, because insufficient attention was paid to energy efficient building fabric and plant design – i.e., the biomass boiler &quot;did it all&quot;.   <br /><br />·        And further, there is a risk that the timber price is pushed so high by the competition from a growing number of biomass burners, that concrete, bricks and steel have to be created, at very high energy and carbon costs, to make building components that could otherwise have been made from wood.  <br /><br />Explaining why he had written the paper, co-author Nick Grant commented: 'There is a lot of confusion around, with people mixing up the terms renewable, sustainable and low carbon. We need to take a step back from the seemingly endless arguments about the definition of zero carbon, and ask ourselves – what are we really trying to do here? I believe when you do this, it is clear that we need to go back to the simple principle of using less energy, in whatever form.'  <br /><br />The paper &quot;Biomass: a burning issue&quot; is available as a pdf download from the new releases area of the AECB website; go to http://www.aecb.net/new_releases/  <br /><br />In order to gain valuable feedback from AECB members on the issues discussed in this paper, and to invite questions and challenges to the thinking, the AECB has set up a thread on its online discussion forum. Non members can watch the debate – members can post. <br /><br />Please go to http://www.aecb.net/forum/index.php?topic=2649.0 <br />&quot;]]>
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