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    • CommentAuthorKparry
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     
    I am a complete novice and looking for guidance on the best way to make some changes.
    I have a 12 year old 3 bed room detached house with a large conservatory extension and converted garage.It already has UPVC glazing,fitted about 3/4 years ago.The insulation is as fitted when built-about 100mm in loft.No cellar etc.
    It is costing huge amounts to heat and some parts of the house are always cold.
    The boiler is due for renewal and we would like to do a loft conversion and open up living room into the converted garage space.Given the extent of the changes we plan i was hoping we could improve it's Green credentials at the same time.
    I know little about it,but like the thought of wood burning stoves/heating,renewable solar energy,insulation and making the place airtight(how).I have concerns over cavity wall insulation as i thought the cavity had a purpose.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     
    What are your walls made of?
    • CommentAuthorKparry
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     
    Brick with cavity to Breezeblock under a tile roof.Many internal walls are studded.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     
    Plastered or blobbed and dobbed with plasterboard?
    • CommentAuthorKparry
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     
    Yes.Some of internal walls on studding,rest i assume blobbed & dobbed onto walls.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     
    http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=820

    Try reading the above thread, basically I am thinking that you are possibly living in a tent made out of plasterboard as outside air is able to blow arround behind your plasterboard. There are also problems under the floors too to look at. Try holding a candle near a socket outlet on an outside wall.
  1.  
    Tony, you've highlighted this problem many times and I agree absolutely. If the cavity is empty (given the age of this house maybe it isn't), wouldn't simply fully filling the cavity with PU foam solve this problem? If this was done properly, I can't see how the draft would get from the outside to the void behind the plasterboard.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     
    Filling the cavity would help a lot but it will not totally solve the problem. It is however the cheapest and easiest way to resolve your problem. On balance I would agree with your idea as a second best thing to do.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     
    Also I think that we use U/F foam for cavity fillings. I would fill the cavity and replaster as my number one option.
    • CommentAuthorKparry
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     
    Many thanks-at last i have a starting point!

    I have just experienced the high cost and problems of getting my daughters house replastered,so alternatives are welcome.

    If i was to wet plaster as you suggest on all walls changed/exposed in my renovation and fill remaining walls as suggested(how would this be done & would it be safe with the wires etc running behind the plaster board).

    In addition i could add cavity wall insulation and more loft insulation.(does losing filling the cavity have any downsides? with circulation obviously inhibited.)

    Going back to my original question what steps would you take next.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     
    Plastering in wire is OK. Best if they are fixed in some way first.

    Yes do do cavity insulation as well as wet plastering.

    More loft insulation is a good idea but may not be economic if you intend loft conversion in the near future.

    Get structural changes out of the way first, then address air leakages ( read other threads for this too), Floor insulation if suspended floor?

    Thermally isolate the conservatory.

    Solar hot water, other things could include rain water recycling, grey water recycling, heat pump and eventually solar pv?
    • CommentAuthorKparry
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     
    Thermally isolate the conservatory? Not sure i understand this.
    You make no mention of heating system fire & boiler to be replaced ,what do you think of would burning options.
    I misread an earlier posting about cavities.Can i retro fit insulation into studded & dabbed plasterboard walls. i.e. inject anything???
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
     
    Make the conservatory an unheated area outside of the main house with double glazed doors and windows between you and it.

    I think burning wood is polluting and adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

    You can have foam (or fibres or beads) injected into masonry cavity walls. Indeed it is a good thing to do.
  2.  
    Hi guys
    Quote "I think burning wood is polluting and adding CO2 to the atmosphere."
    I have to respectfully disagree with this though it does depend on several things - such as where you get the wood from, how dry it is, and how efficient your woodburner is.
    Wood that is well seasoned and is burnt efficiently burns relatively cleanly. Some stoves burn so cleanly they are allowed in smokeless zones.
    Also, wood is a renewable source of fuel. The carbon it releases when burnt is the same carbon that it absorbed while growing. So long as the cycle continues, this does not involve extra carbon entering the atmosphere permanently (as is the case with fossil fuels). So - burn wood that would have been dumped in landfill or burnt on a bonfire (building sites are terribly wasteful of wood), get offcuts from a friendly joiner or source it from a well-managed woodland.
    • CommentAuthorchuckey
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2007
     
    "Can i retro fit insulation into studded & dabbed plasterboard walls. i.e. inject anything???" If I under stand this question, you want to insulate your internal walls? to which I say no, only the external walls (and floor and loft floor) need be done.
    From what I have read, cavity walls were the answer to prevent rain ingress through solid brick walls. They were always fully ventilated, so you were living in a single skin building as far as thermal considerations were concerned. There could be a downside to solid foam injection, if the cavity ties are sloping the wrong way - I have seen this in a 1970s bungalow - outer skin of the wall was re-built. But if you choose fibre or beads they are bulletproof against water. Any water finding its way into the cavity will go downwards not across, so keeping the inner skin dry. But both types can/will settle. You pays ya money. . . .
    Frank
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