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    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2014
    Posted By: JoinerFor the record...
    Didn't I read somewhere that we have a serious shortage of homes in England. I'm not sure that a local authority piling on costs to the price of new builds is the way to go.

    My local authority tried to get a self build neighbour to sign an agreement limiting the resale value of the new house to £100,000 plus inflation. His solicitor said 'sign it' as it would be unenforceable in law. In the end they withdrew it.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    Unenforceable? Many LA require builders to make a percentage of their houses "affordable". Usually by requiring them to put a covenant limiting resale prices to 80% of market value into the title deeds.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014 edited
    Posted By: CWatters80% of market value
    Define market value?
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    Posted By: TriassicDefine market value?
    The intersection between product demand and finance supply.
    • CommentAuthorstones
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    In Perthshire the local council now requires an educational contribution of around £7000 per new home (big builders excluded and free to negotiate their own contribution, social housing exempt) to go into a pot to provide funds for an expansion to school capacity where required. There are only about two school catchments in Perthshire where such a contribution is not required due to the availability of places. The kick is, you pay this money and the local school does not get the money so your child still may not get a place at the local school.

    The contribution has to be paid before they will formally issue the planning permission. If you don not pay, you do not get planning permission. The only way around it is to sign a binding agreement to pay the contribution at a later point - building completed / land sold etc. My neighbour signed one of these - the contribution is indexed linked. Highway robbery has been the phrase used. I prefer the term extortion, as that is what this really is.
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    On the upside of CIL, are existing, but vacant, properties coming back into use. Make it cheaper to refurbish something rather than build something new is possibly a good thing.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    Posted By: stones(big builders excluded and free to negotiate their own contribution, social housing exempt)
    So their 'mates' don't have to pay, insulting at best, at worst Poulson comes to mind!!
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2014
    I am planning to demolish a timber frame and asbestos bungalow and replace with brick cottage in deepest Devon and when i contacted the local council I was informed they are going to consider (summer of 2014)a charge of some sort EVEN for replacement builds, so my planning application is in hand as we speak.
    If I was self-building or building, and I'm not at present - I'm doing a larger application for a housing estate, I would be thinking about things like double height spaces where a mezzanine could be added later, houses of 98 sqm plus a 'conservatory' later, and so on.

    It sounds like petty manipulation, but when the tax is measured in thousands and tens of thousands it becomes significant and you have to lose a bedroom, a downstairs bathroom, or the possibility of converting for a family annexe later. Sequencing will be critical.

    Like any complicated system designed to extract cash, it incentivises particular behaviours if the taxation level is too high.

    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2014 edited
    Among the authorities known to have shelved its CIL plans is Redcar & Cleveland Borough Council, which was one of 20 "front runner" councils picked by the government in 2011 to demonstrate the benefits of the levy.

    The council's draft local plan, published last September, currently cites advice from consultants that it is "not appropriate" to adopt CIL to raise money for critical infrastructure as "it is not currently possible to demonstrate sufficient viability in both the residential and employment development sectors."

    Others not proceeding are Wolverhampton City Council and North Hertfordshire District Council. Wolverhampton City Council decided not to pursue CIL in 2012 on the grounds of high implementation costs coupled with "low anticipated revenue", while North Hertfordshire Council opted not to implement CIL last July. Its cabinet was warned that "there would probably be less money to spend under CIL" than under section 106 (S106) arrangements, and that CIL would not guarantee that particular infrastructure deficiencies would be addressed.

    Scarborough Borough Council's cabinet will consider a report next month recommending against the introduction of CIL on the grounds of "questionable" viability, potential damage to local housebuilding plans, and reduced affordable housing provision.


    Maybe some sense at last?
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2014
    For the record, again...

    "Earlier this year Government consulted on proposed amendments to the CIL Regulations. Subsequently, Government released a summary of the responses received on this consultation and their proposed actions. Government also stated that they are seeking to introduce the amended CIL Regulations by the end of January 2014.

    "Draft Amendment CIL Regulations (2014) have now been laid before the House of Commons for consideration and are available to view via the link at the bottom of the page."

    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2014
    “Exemption for self-build housing

    54A. —(1) Subject to paragraphs (10) and (11), a person (P) is eligible for an exemption from liability to pay CIL in respect of a chargeable development, or part of a chargeable development, if it comprises self-build housing or
    self-build communal development.

    (2) Self-build housing is a dwelling built by P (in cluding where built following a commission by P) and occupied by P as P’s sole or main residence.

    I assume the above is the relevant bit for most people here?
    Indeed but still not clear when effective -
    "However, until such time as the Amended CIL Regulations are introduced, Shropshire Council will be unable to reflect their content during the administration of the CIL process."

    Exemption for self-build housing: procedure
    54B.—(1) A person who wishes to benefit from the exemption for self-build housing
    must submit a claim to the collecting authority in accordance with this regulation.
    (2) The claim must—
    (a) be made by a person who—
    (i) intends to build, or commission the building of, a new dwelling, and intends
    to occupy the dwelling as their sole or main residence for the duration of the
    clawback period, and
    (ii) has assumed liability to pay CIL in respect of the new dwelling, whether or
    not they have also assumed liability to pay CIL in respect of other
    (b) be received by the collecting authority before commencement of the chargeable
    (c) be submitted to the collecting authority in writing on a form published by the
    Secretary of State (or a form substantially to the same effect);
    (d) include the particulars specified or referred to in the form; and
    (e) where more than one person has assumed liability to pay CIL in respect of the
    chargeable development, clearly identify the part of the development that the claim
    relates to. 16
    (3) A claim under this regulation will lapse where the chargeable development to which it
    relates is commenced before the collecting authority has notified the claimant of its
    decision on the claim.
    (4) As soon as practicable after receiving a valid claim, and subject to regulation
    54A(10), the collecting authority must grant the exemption and notify the claimant in
    writing of the exemption granted (or the amount of relief granted, as the case may be).
    (5) A claim for an exemption for self-build housing is valid if it complies with the
    requirements of paragraph (2).
    (6) A person who is granted an exemption for self-build housing ceases to be eligible for
    that exemption if a commencement notice is not submitted to the collecting authority before
    the day the chargeable development is commenced.
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