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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[A mere 21% efficient. Does anyone know of anything worse?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dovre.co.uk/html/canopy-2700-gas.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.dovre.co.uk/html/canopy-2700-gas.html</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Gas fired patio heaters?]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[Check out fires using &quot;Verine's 420 Acclaim burner&quot;. .. <br /><br />Example...<br /><a href="http://www.verine.co.uk/seville.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.verine.co.uk/seville.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.fireplacesaver.co.uk/details.php?id=807" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.fireplacesaver.co.uk/details.php?id=807</a><br /><br />Most web sites say Max Gas Input - 10.4kW (some 11.5kW) and the heat output is usually stated as &quot;Decorative use only&quot; or &quot;produces background heat only&quot;.]]>
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		<title>Is this the worlds most inefficient heating appliance?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[Another example...<br /><a href="http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2118/919/products/verine-two-bar-contemporary-gas-fire-basket.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2118/919/products/verine-two-bar-contemporary-gas-fire-basket.html</a>]]>
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		<title>Is this the worlds most inefficient heating appliance?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[Open-grate coal fire with no cast surround at 10 - 15%, or are we talking new only?]]>
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		<title>Is this the worlds most inefficient heating appliance?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Neil K</author>
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			<![CDATA[How about almost any heater where the shop then leaves the door open?.... that really ought to be a criminal offence!]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>funcrusher</author>
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			<![CDATA[Terrible things to be sure - but generally sold as primarily decorative features, and not claiming to be primarily heating appliances, so your question is rather like suggesting I am the world's worst footballer ....]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>nigel</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: funcrusher</cite>Terrible things to be sure - but generally sold as primarily decorative features, and not claiming to be primarily heating appliances, so your question is rather like suggesting I am the world's worst footballer ....</blockquote><br /><br />Well if you read the brochure there is no suggestion that these are for decorative use, what is more they are sold by a company which sells predominantly .... yes heating appliances so I have no doubt that some less well informed people will be buying these in anticipation of getting useful heat out of them.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Scarlett</author>
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			<![CDATA[dovre canopied stoves and gas fires are marketed towards siting in  large inglenooks as a compromise to large grates.The smaller flue size needed for a dovre will massively reduce heat loss up the chimney when not in use. A large inglenook can replace all of the air in a room every 5- 10 minutes. The 2700 gas is inefficient but hot, the effect can keep the keenest of pyromaniacs satisfied.]]>
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