Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:30:06 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11929#Comment_11929 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11929#Comment_11929 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:17:31 +0000 tony
Thus we have the weird situation where one good government policy has had a knock on effect leading to a ghastly waste of energy trying to heat out door spaces.

Insane or what?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11930#Comment_11930 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11930#Comment_11930 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:19:47 +0000 Nick Parsons
Discuss...]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11933#Comment_11933 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11933#Comment_11933 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:23 +0000 Scarlett

Pubs need to create new areas for smokers, heated by wood]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11934#Comment_11934 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11934#Comment_11934 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:25:25 +0000 richy
i'm a joiner, not a smoker!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11936#Comment_11936 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11936#Comment_11936 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:33:13 +0000 fostertom Posted By: Scarlettcreate new areas for smokers, heated by woodIf by law that has to be outdoors, then the only possible way of heating is by radiant, which remains more or less effective regardless of air temp or wind. Note I say 'more or less'!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11937#Comment_11937 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11937#Comment_11937 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:47:16 +0000 tony
On Christmas day in the workhouse in August last July --springs to mind.

There is a contradiction in your question Nick -- sustainable and patio heaters are opposites.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11940#Comment_11940 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11940#Comment_11940 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:47:31 +0000 jamesingram stout sturdy footwear. I wonder when dressing for the weather will come back in fashion?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11942#Comment_11942 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11942#Comment_11942 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:25:23 +0000 Nick Parsons
On Christmas day in the workhouse in August last July --springs to mind.

There is a contradiction in your question Nick -- sustainable and patio heaters are opposites. ''

Quite! Sorry, ''The Sustainable Patio Heater Co'' has been a running joke as we've been freezing our bits off building this timber building. What's a bit of impossibility between friends?

N]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11945#Comment_11945 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11945#Comment_11945 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:41:30 +0000 Peter A https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11946#Comment_11946 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11946#Comment_11946 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:51:20 +0000 Nick Parsons stout sturdy footwear. I wonder when dressing for the weather will come back in fashion? ''

The Sustainable Patio Heater and Woolly Jumper Co.....]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11954#Comment_11954 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11954#Comment_11954 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:08:19 +0000 Scarlett To justify the need for extra staff to tend the fire , food could be cooked on or in the stove!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11956#Comment_11956 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11956#Comment_11956 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:15:10 +0000 Nick Parsons https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11957#Comment_11957 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11957#Comment_11957 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:44:29 +0000 Scarlett https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11958#Comment_11958 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11958#Comment_11958 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:50:06 +0000 CWatters https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11960#Comment_11960 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11960#Comment_11960 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:07:11 +0000 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11968#Comment_11968 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11968#Comment_11968 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:31:33 +0000 James Norton
Simple: smoke more fags, smoke bigger fags...

J

]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11973#Comment_11973 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11973#Comment_11973 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:59:17 +0000 Mike George https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11976#Comment_11976 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11976#Comment_11976 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:15:02 +0000 James Norton ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11977#Comment_11977 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11977#Comment_11977 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:22:29 +0000 Scarlett
Warm air could be diffused into numerous smaller (say 40 mm) pipes which then make up tubular furniture (seating, hand rails etc.). The flow could then connect to a vertical flue to help up draught and disperse fumes.

I think theres good potential from commercial kitchen extractors.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11986#Comment_11986 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11986#Comment_11986 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:11:39 +0000 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11992#Comment_11992 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11992#Comment_11992 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:21:49 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11995#Comment_11995 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=11995#Comment_11995 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:05:41 +0000 Scarlett https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12001#Comment_12001 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12001#Comment_12001 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:14:21 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12004#Comment_12004 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12004#Comment_12004 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:49:01 +0000 Scarlett https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12005#Comment_12005 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12005#Comment_12005 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 07:31:49 +0000 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12011#Comment_12011 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12011#Comment_12011 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:30:42 +0000 skywalker
'Anyone want to make comments about the conflict of HMG policies?'

There are conflicts in all policies. Big fat glaring ones such as UK arms dealing, 'elephants in the room' such as any climate change poilicy which does not put global human population at the very top of the agenda (possibly seperated from ALL the other less important issues by a page or two), and a myriad of inconsistenecies such as the outdoor heater comedy outlined here.

As a child/young person in the 70's I was a staunch anti-smoker as I had absorbed the message from telly and at school.I even saved up my pocket money for months & bought those devices you used to fit your ciggarette into to help my mother give up (didn't work). I started smoking when I was about 18 as a result of going out to pubs constantly surrounded by smoke and after a number of my freinds had succumbed to the weed. I literaly found myself walking down the street wanting a fag one day & bought a pack - the end. I am now 42 and trying to quit for the n'th time (going well nearing the 4th week on patches) but the stats are not good and very few manage to quit permanently. I suspect that banning smoking in public places will stop a great many people from starting to smoke, hopefully future HMG's will be persuaded to be even more draconian and ban the sale of tobacco entirely (with a registered addict scheme) and tobbaco tar will no longer provide long, lingering, painfull, expensive deaths as it does now.

The energy cost of looking after near complete cohorts of westerners into their 90's and beyond are, of course, another story.

S.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12066#Comment_12066 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12066#Comment_12066 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:14:30 +0000 fostertom Posted By: Scarletttransfer the heat to a person touching or sitting. Similar feeling to heated car seats.Could be a good approach - a bit of convection would rise to envelop the person, but it need only be a little bit, because very localised, before it gets blown away]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12067#Comment_12067 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12067#Comment_12067 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:25:58 +0000 Paul in Montreal
Paul in Montreal]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12076#Comment_12076 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1060&Focus=12076#Comment_12076 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:11:09 +0000 stephendv