Wed, 10 Jun 2026 09:43:08 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1239#Comment_1239 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1239#Comment_1239 Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:36:40 +0000 ian
Okay here's my question to the forum.

We are in need of some fairly large building repairs but have neglected to plan long-term for this(naughty naughty). So not wishing to miss any golden opportunities is anybody available to quote or give some advice on the following 2 jobs

1 - New flat roof (70 Msq)
My thoughts on this were - EPDM membrane, polyurethane insulation, and maybe sedum/turf on top
Our budget will be limited and I'm unsure as to whether any local roofers will be able to do the sedum/turf option
2 - External cladding and insulation of an exterior wall. (100Msq, only 2 windows on upper floor)
Again polyurethane then maybe some welsh grown red cedar cladding. This wall has no pointing and is suffering from damp. About 20 yrs ago an adjoining warehouse/factory was demolished whic was originally built against it.

Pictures are provided in the following link.
http://iansengineeringpage.org.uk/pics/roof/roof.html
http://www.birminghamfoe.org.uk/warehouse.htm

Also if anybody is passing through Birmingham city centre please feel free to pop in and check out our place.
There's a vegetarian restaurant, wholefood shop, bike shop, meeting room for hire and more - all only 5 minutes walk from New St station.

I have looked through a copy of the green building bible( I think it was called that - directory for green builders) but there was nobody in Birmingham and few people in the Midlands it seemed.

Thanks - Ian Moore]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1287#Comment_1287 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1287#Comment_1287 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:00:52 +0000 GBP-Keith
I'm a bit put off by EPDM as a membrane for grass roofs as I installed such a membrane here at my farm and in just ten years it has shrunk by over 300mm in each direction. That is significant as the roof is only 11 metres long x 6 metres wide. It has ripped itself off all the fixings and left me with the mammoth task of having to replace it. I think I'm going to go for a TPO membrane from someone like Flag. I thought about glassfibre but I've heard some bad rumours about that.

Regarding your external insulation, you could use Rockwool in a timber frame attached to the brickwork and overclad with a breather membrane and the cedar.

There always has been a shortage of ecobuilders in Birmingham. I lived there for almost two years in a tin cabin while I built the 'Centre of the Earth' at Winson Green because a local green builder could not be found.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1291#Comment_1291 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1291#Comment_1291 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:15:41 +0000 nigel
I also know of someone who has used a similar product called Oldroyd which I think is a TPO.

Both can be diy as they are very easy to install.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1292#Comment_1292 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1292#Comment_1292 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:19:58 +0000 GBP-Keith https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1296#Comment_1296 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1296#Comment_1296 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:03:49 +0000 nigel
They were very helpful to a friend who installed it and even sent someone out to give them free advice when they were installing it.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1970#Comment_1970 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1970#Comment_1970 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:31:05 +0100 ian
Ian]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1971#Comment_1971 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1971#Comment_1971 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:25:36 +0100 Guest
I know of a permanent flat roof system that should meet all your requirements. Its ideal for green roofs.

Contact me at stephen_leigh@hotmail.com

regards
Steve]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1972#Comment_1972 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1972#Comment_1972 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:45:07 +0100 Julian https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1973#Comment_1973 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1973#Comment_1973 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:56:57 +0100 Guest https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1974#Comment_1974 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=1974#Comment_1974 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:57:40 +0100 steveleigh ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2347#Comment_2347 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2347#Comment_2347 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:30:31 +0100 GBP-Keith Posted By: nigelI used system platon on a turf roof 14 years ago and it has performed faultlessly in that time. I think its made of polypropelene.

I also know of someone who has used a similar product called Oldroyd which I think is a TPO.

Both can be diy as they are very easy to install.

Nigel, what waterproofing system did you use under the Platon as this product and the Oldroyd product are only drainage components according to the manufacturers?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2350#Comment_2350 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2350#Comment_2350 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:58:39 +0100 nigel https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2351#Comment_2351 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2351#Comment_2351 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:00:52 +0100 nigel Posted By: (GBP) KeithPlaton as this product and the Oldroyd product are only drainage components according to the manufacturers?

They are actually watertight and its unlikely the waterproofing will be used but it is advisable to have it.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2356#Comment_2356 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114&Focus=2356#Comment_2356 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:41:47 +0100 Guest