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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:42:09 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Phil.Chaddah-Duke</author>
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			<![CDATA[We are using Illbruck ME501 membrane stuck between window and EWI in the reveals on the outside and airtight membrane stuck to inside frame. I was planning to use spray expanding foam to fill the gap in between. Can someone explain whats the benefit of the expanding foam strips, I did like the look of them but they seemed expensive with little additional benefit?  I can see they are useful if they being used to provide the airtight seal.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:54:39 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[At a guess it may additionally be to do with the longevity, especially the neoprene type ones. <br />Bog standard expanding foam does degrade, and I often wonder what state some of the fixing jobs that rely on it, will be like in 20 years or more. The good quality ones may have improved and lifespan may now be better.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:58:44 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[So is it also used for fixing purposes?]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:17:45 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[The expanding foam tape/strip on a roll AFAIK isn't used for fixing, rather gap filling, the principle fix being mechanical. Expanding can type foams on the other hand have become a bit of a universal stick anything to anything solution.  Maybe a short cut to decent workmanship, if you like. That's what I meant when I said if used in this way, "will it still hold in 20 years time".]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:36:55 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[UV attacks this foam. Anything else? Critters?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:56:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>andyman99</author>
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			<![CDATA[Yes, mice also eat the PU foam. I have seen evidence recently. I have redone the addected areas with embedded fine wire mesh and hope that will work.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:08:57 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Certainly in our case, with EWI rendered into the reveals, ICF walls and airtight membrane internally, I don't see the PU expanding foam in the middle being affected by UV or critters of any kind so would imagine it remain in tact long term. Actually now I think about it, I have set our windows out in line with the EWI so not sure it makes sense to use the expanding strips between windows and insulation anyway.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:17:18 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Peter Clark</author>
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			<![CDATA[I have discovered the power of appealing to peoples better nature, veiled threats regarding our agreement, badgering and cajoling. Salt of the earth type has now done what he agreed with the Dow foam, mostly. I personally supervised the work being done.<br /><br />What a palaver!<br /><br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:50:10 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[What a palaver!<br /><br />Peter<br /><br />Yes, but what a result!<br /><br />Well done.<br /><br />Nick]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Sigh, I had a feeling this one would run and run.<br />Photo attached.<br />One uPVC window frame has developed yellow/brown marks on the inside after installation. No others have. All were foamed in with the same product (Dow great stuff PRO) designed for that purpose with uPVC frames.<br />Builder had a look and said he would come back and try and clean it. Now ignoring efforts to communicate, not having returned.<br />Supplier says its the Dow foam not being wiped off that window, and there is a solvent that would help, but they will not do it - up to builder. Builder not replying.<br /><br />Does anyone know what the solvent might be to remove yellow marks left by 'Dow great stuff pro' window foam?<br />Or any other advice?<br />Thanks,<br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[is the polythene protection still on the window frame?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: tony</cite>is the polythene protection still on the window frame?</blockquote><br />No.<br />It looks like a kind of varnish, cannot be removed by scratching or scraping, at least not easily or without a lot of abrasion damage.<br />Thanks for trying to help,<br />peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[OK then, lets cheat and fix a neat upvc trim over it almost to the edge of the glass bead, they are available in lots of sizes.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Does anyone know what the solvent might be to remove yellow marks</blockquote>Ask the<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Supplier</blockquote>]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>PeterStarck</author>
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			<![CDATA[If the plastic hasn't been painted you could try Everbuild Purex Foam Eater. If they have been painted it may still work but could soften the paint depending on the paint type.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Gotanewlife</author>
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			<![CDATA[Every type of PU foam I have ever used says removal after drying by abrasion only.  I have had some luck in similar circumstances with a very sharp knife relying on the UPVC being new and smooth when it got dirty but great care required not to shave the plastic.  Frankly I think you're buxxered.  All you can do is sand it off, then sand the UPVC to try ansd get an even fine finish over the whole edge but you'll probably have to cover it it as suggested above.  100% sure builder will not come back as is in a no-win situation and you could ask for a new window.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Peter Clark</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: SteamyTea</cite><blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Does anyone know what the solvent might be to remove yellow marks</blockquote>Ask the<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Supplier</blockquote></blockquote><br /><br />They say acetone, it does not work.<br /><br />Thanks to people who have made suggestions. <br /><br />There must be something I can do encourage them to fix the problem they created, surely?<br /><br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Gotanewlife</author>
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			<![CDATA[What is the best outcome you could imagine?  Saying 'fix' is not enough.  Only solutions are: covering, sanding/scraping with attempt at uniformity on the top, sanding and painting whole frame and replacing window.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Peter Clark</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Gotanewlife</cite>What is the best outcome you could imagine?  Saying 'fix' is not enough.  Only solutions are: covering, sanding/scraping with attempt at uniformity on the top, sanding and painting whole frame and replacing window.</blockquote><br /><br />Replacement will do, that is what he owes me, but how can I persuade him of that?<br /><br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[It has just occurred to me that maybe this highlights the difference between PVC and timber windows?<br />PVC being "non-maintainable" as opposed to "maintenance-free".]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[I think this will do it, not sure what it does to the PVC though:<br /><a href="http://www.dow.com/gco/prod/meth_ch/meth_svg_n.htm" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.dow.com/gco/prod/meth_ch/meth_svg_n.htm</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Sounds awful like chloroform to me or trichloroethane huge ozone depletion potential.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Replacement will do, that is what he owes me, but how can I persuade him of that?</blockquote>You know that's not going to happen!!! Get over it and focus on the possible.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Gotanewlife</cite><blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>Replacement will do, that is what he owes me, but how can I persuade him of that?</blockquote>You know that's not going to happen!!! Get over it and focus on the possible.</blockquote><br />Gotanewlife is probably right  - I would start off with the request to replace as the initial negotiating position and work down from there. - Mention the small claims court fairly early on! <br />It also depends if you want any more work done or whether there is any thing else outstanding in either direction, - work from them or cash from you.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Peter Clark</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter_in_Hungary</cite>I would start off with the request to replace as the initial negotiating position and work down from there. - Mention the small claims court fairly early on</blockquote><br />I appreciate people trying to help.<br />The current problem is that the builder does not reply to emails or letters or telephone messages. What is the best way to proceed?<br /><br /><br /><blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Gotanewlife</cite>You know that's not going to happen</blockquote><br />I find this a bit confusing - he supplied something that is clearly not right, I have rights, how can I find out what they are and assert them?<br /><br />Thanks again,<br /><br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>joe90</author>
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			<![CDATA[trading standards!]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>ringi</author>
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			<![CDATA[You need to get 3 sets of quotes for putting it right, and then issue court proceedings.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>andyman99</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter Clark</cite>....<br />One uPVC window frame has developed yellow/brown marks on the inside after installation. No others have. All were foamed in with the same product ...</blockquote><br /><br />I notice you used the word developed. I have also noticed a few patches of similar staining developing after I foamed in my windows. I didn't use the exact same product, but a similar low expanding PU foam (I expect) and I'm fairly sure the patches have become more apparent (probably the yellow colour has darkened) with time. My stains can be removed using a cream cleaner and some fairly  aggressive scrubbing. YMMV.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>revor</author>
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			<![CDATA[A decent upvc window supplier will sell you a kit comprising of a lubricant and different grades of sanding pads which you use in sequence to achieve a polished finish. The kits are cheap and you have nothing to loose by trying it out. It is a laborious process but worked well for me on a small area.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Gotanewlife</author>
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			<![CDATA[Great advice revor - I had never heard of such things but seems obvious now.  Peter, I was a bit brusque, sorry, if you have nothing 'on' the guy, ie a long relationship, money owed to him, the prospect of lots more work going his way, friends in high places etc then there can only be 3 ways forward: he does it (replaces window)voluntarily because he is an honorable man (not the case as he is not responding), small claims court or you fix it yourself.]]>
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