Green Building Forum - 3d kitchen design software? Wed, 09 Sep 2026 17:55:29 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200963#Comment_200963 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200963#Comment_200963 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 07:06:46 +0100 hairydude
Im having my kitchen built by a local cabinet maker, cost is good but I'm doing the design legwork to produce pretty pictures which SWMBO can approve!

Cheers]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200964#Comment_200964 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200964#Comment_200964 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 07:35:27 +0100 Mackers 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200965#Comment_200965 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200965#Comment_200965 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 07:37:35 +0100 ferdinand2000
I believe other kitchen places do similar - B&Q?

Ferdinand]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200967#Comment_200967 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200967#Comment_200967 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:12:38 +0100 Chris P Bacon
The only thing it wouldn't let me do was to place wall units on the floor. I made an island unit with a raised breakfast bar at one side by placing a row of wall and floor units back to back with the standard counter top over hanging the wall units to give leg room.

Someone posted a link to a German firms kitchen design tool a while back and highly recommended it, try a search to find the link.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200968#Comment_200968 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200968#Comment_200968 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:43:49 +0100 Paul in Montreal Posted By: Chris P BaconThe only thing it wouldn't let me do was to place wall units on the floor. I made an island unit with a raised breakfast bar at one side by placing a row of wall and floor units back to back with the standard counter top over hanging the wall units to give leg room.

That's odd because I designed the same thing - a peninsular using wall units and I'm pretty sure I was able to coax the wall units into being on the ground. I thought, also, that IKEA had pre-configured islands made of wall units that you could place on the floor in their tool? It's been quite a few years since I used the tool and I'm sure the current version is not the same as the one I used. I do recall having to trick it somewhat into getting the units on the floor though.

Paul in Montreal.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200969#Comment_200969 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200969#Comment_200969 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:43:04 +0100 beelbeebub
Search for wren kitchens.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200970#Comment_200970 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200970#Comment_200970 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:45:19 +0100 Mackers 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200975#Comment_200975 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200975#Comment_200975 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:42:15 +0100 Cerisy
We were planning on using the IKEA planner as we are happy with the IKEA system, just never considered using wall units under the island. What made you go for them Crispy? We are trying to avoid having cupboards below the worktops - just drawer units, but I am intrigued at the use of wall cupboards low down! Maybe a rethink is on the cards - have to pop over to our local IKEA and check out the options / meatballs!! When in France do as the French do - eat horse!!

Regards, Jonathan]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200976#Comment_200976 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200976#Comment_200976 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:25:16 +0100 Paul in Montreal
Paul in Montreal.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200977#Comment_200977 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200977#Comment_200977 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:59:03 +0100 marktime 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200978#Comment_200978 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200978#Comment_200978 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:03:56 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: Cerisyjust never considered using wall units under the island. What made you go for them Crispy?

The idea was two-fold, one to get a higher level surface for the breakfast bar, the wall units are 225mm taller than the normal floor units so give a surface at just the right height for bar stools and as they are also narrower you get a nice overhang on the worktop for knee room. Those cupboards we use for all the little used electrical gadgets that don't come out too often.

The second reason was that it creates a nice visual barrier to the kitchen from the dining table so all the dirty dishes, pot and pans are out of sight when you are eating and you don't have to feel guilty about the mess when you have guests.

I'd take a photo but it's still not finished! I got a bit carried away with customising it and giving it a painted finish, so ran out of steam three quarters way through. Started into it again last week and hope to get it finished over the next few weekends.

One thing I am not very happy with is the action on the Ikea drawers. Not sure if they have improved them with the new Metod range or not, ours are Faktum, but the self closing dampers only kick in at the very end of the drawer travel maybe 2 inches or so. You really have to give them a good old whack from fully open to be sure that they will close fully otherwise they can stop before they get to the self closing mechanism.

I'm sure that the previous non-ikea kitchen was much better in this regard. Does anyone know if there is a way to retro-fit a better mechanism?]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200979#Comment_200979 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200979#Comment_200979 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:09:06 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: Paul in MontrealThough the wall units don't have mountings for feet, you can still use the IKEA feet for these.
For the island I didn't use the Ikea feet at all, I constructed a base frame in 4x2 which I screwed to the floor and then screwed all the units to the base frame, so the whole lot will never budge!]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200980#Comment_200980 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200980#Comment_200980 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:31:43 +0100 marktime
Wow! nothing personal Cris P but lots of us can remember cupboard drawers that jammed, stuck on opening, fell out when you gave them a real good tug and so on. Today's kitchen drawers are fantastic (Faktum), a quick movement with your bum gets 'em to the closer and then home they go, as quiet as a mouse and as smooth as silk. And nested drawers the same, closing the outer closes the inner without the need to do two closings.

Now let's talk about dirty pots and pans, etc. Our counter top connects directly with our lounge/social area so kitchen debris is a no-no. So, no draining board, everything into the dishwasher as it finishes its use and nothing out on the counter top except a bowl of fruit. No guilt, no mess. :wink:]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200981#Comment_200981 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200981#Comment_200981 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:22:28 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: marktimeWow! nothing personal Cris P but lots of us can remember cupboard drawers that jammed, stuck on opening, fell out when you gave them a real good tug and so on.
Oh I remember the good old days when runners were nothing more than wood on wood. Having worked for years delivering Mexican pine and then Indonesian "mahogany" there is not much you can tell me about bad drawers!

But when you see it done well then you set a new standard by which you compare things and there is no question that my Ikea drawers fall well short of what I know can be achieved.

Posted By: marktimeNow let's talk about dirty pots and pans, etc. Our counter top connects directly with our lounge/social area so kitchen debris is a no-no. So, no draining board, everything into the dishwasher as it finishes its use and nothing out on the counter top except a bowl of fruit. No guilt, no mess.

You obviously are much more disciplined and have a much larger dishwasher than I. You can come around our gaff the next time we are cooking for 20 and show me how it's done!

I do remember seeing a kitchen design programme on the TV and the guy had two dishwashers. Nothing ever went in the cupboard, clean stuff was used directly from one dishwasher and directly deposited back into the dirty one. Not very eco I know.

Anyway no mess this evening, had the BBQ out for the first run of the season and did my best to kill the neighbours with the particulate emissions. Unfortunately the wind was in the wrong direction for the bugger on one side who came into our garden during the week and cut the brambles on our side of the fence. He'll be getting a letter from my solicitors later instructing him to come back and attend to the rest of our garden. :devil:]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200982#Comment_200982 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200982#Comment_200982 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:25:22 +0100 Paul in Montreal
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/40057853/

Paul in Montreal.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200983#Comment_200983 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200983#Comment_200983 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:34:44 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: Chris P BaconSomeone posted a link to a German firms kitchen design tool a while back and highly recommended it, try a search to find the link.Feeling guilty about derailing your thread hairydude I went off and did the search and it was Simon Still who recommended the design tool on:

http://www.haecker-kuechen.de/en/]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200984#Comment_200984 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200984#Comment_200984 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:35:59 +0100 Chris P Bacon

So here it is again in a clickable version.

http://www.haecker-kuechen.de/en/]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200989#Comment_200989 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200989#Comment_200989 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 01:21:56 +0100 hairydude
Our current kitchen is ikea and I had thought about another but my good lady wishes a hand painted, in-frame look this time. Sounds like this is what you're doing Chris P - did you just clad the carcasses externally and source other doors or simply paint the ikea units?]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200991#Comment_200991 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200991#Comment_200991 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:53:14 +0100 Chris P Bacon
I and more importantly swmbo are very happy with the result (so far).

I do still need to resize some carcasses and door fronts for overhead our fridge freezer. There are instructions on the IKEA hackers website for taking apart the skaker doors which looks pretty straightforward but I haven't done it yet.

Preparing and painting all the doors has been a bit tedious as I don't have a workshop, but it will be worth it in the end.

There are a number of guys on eBay offering handmade unpainted in frame units at decent money. It was just the cost of shipping here to Sweden that killed that option for me.

Very hard to get a reasonably priced kitchen here in Sweden as IKEA has killed the competition at that end of the market.

I spent about £3,000 on the units and another £500 or so to frame them. The quote I had for an identical design from another manufacturer was £22K + fitting. But then of course the wife went and blew £5K of the saving on a granite worktop.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200995#Comment_200995 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200995#Comment_200995 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 14:38:35 +0100 hairydude 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200996#Comment_200996 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200996#Comment_200996 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 15:50:48 +0100 Chris P Bacon
The first is the style that we were quoted £22K for and the second is my reworking of Ikea units.

You can see that I still need to do some adjustments and fit the frame at the bottom of the units and the kick board.

Sorry I have no way to get photos off my decent camera at the moment so had to use the camera phone so the picture quality is not the best. The paint colour is a greeny grey.]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200997#Comment_200997 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200997#Comment_200997 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:26:37 +0100 hairydude
Did you have to do a lot of prep on the doors before painting to get a key or was it just a primer and normal sanding?]]> 3d kitchen design software? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200998#Comment_200998 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12023&Focus=200998#Comment_200998 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:52:56 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: hairydudeDid you have to do a lot of prep on the doors before painting to get a key or was it just a primer and normal sanding?
Gave them a sanding with a mouse with 240 grit paper and then a couple of coats of primer and a couple or three of finish coat. I used a small roller with a fine bristle. In hind sight I probably should have had them sprayed professionally as the finish isn't top notch but fair enough I think. After a few months wear the difference will probably not be noticeable (I hope).

The end grain of the MDF I treated with neat wood glue but it hasn't been a great success and the paint finish has very noticeable "orange peel". Once I finish the bottom frame I will take away the doors and sand the MDF again and give it a slight smear of Isopon body filler and re-paint.]]>