Sat, 30 May 2026 23:17:53 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207021#Comment_207021 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207021#Comment_207021 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:25:31 +0100 Triassic https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207022#Comment_207022 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207022#Comment_207022 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:28:57 +0100 tony
The real price should be between 1 and 2k

My big project last year 500m2 engineer designed rafts and TF for the above, architect got nilch.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207024#Comment_207024 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207024#Comment_207024 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:38:06 +0100 slidersx200 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207025#Comment_207025 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207025#Comment_207025 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:40:07 +0100 Ed Davies https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207026#Comment_207026 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207026#Comment_207026 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:42:43 +0100 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207039#Comment_207039 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207039#Comment_207039 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:05:58 +0100 richardelliot
Based on other comments on this thread I might be over paying!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207045#Comment_207045 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207045#Comment_207045 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:34:18 +0100 Nick Parsons
Is it stud-work or post and beam? I realised recently some SEs treat the 2 methods as very different 'disciplines'.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207047#Comment_207047 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207047#Comment_207047 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:16:00 +0100 SteamyTea
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Structures-Things-Dont-Fall-Down/dp/0306812835]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207051#Comment_207051 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207051#Comment_207051 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:47:19 +0100 skyewright Posted By: SteamyTeaMay be worth getting a copy of this. Wish I had when I did my BSc module in materials and structures:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Structures-Things-Dont-Fall-Down/dp/0306812835" >http://www.amazon.co.uk/Structures-Things-Dont-Fall-Down/dp/0306812835
(Earlier editoins of) That and "The New Science of Strong Materials: Or Why You Don't Fall Through the Floor" by the same author were on the 1st year reading list when I started my Civ Eng degree well over 30 years ago!

I just double checked & yes I still have them (even though followed a different path after Uni).]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207061#Comment_207061 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207061#Comment_207061 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:39:09 +0100 Ed Davies Posted By: richardelliot…and includes site visits, initial design, input to the QS for a costing of the project…Have to say my SE didn't do any of that. The house designer did the ground conditions report (digger was on site for the access construction, anyway) - SE just produced 2D drawings (tweaked fairly substantially from my & house designer's drawings) and SER certificate. IIRC, the SE would have charged about £300 to look at the ground whereas the house designer only charged £50 and had the flexibility to time it for when the digger was available avoiding additional cost for that.

So comparing prices doesn't seem to make too much sense without a lot more context.

And, yes, I wish I'd read a good book on structures and done a lot more of the detailed design myself. Friend did that for his big extension but then he has a degree in aeronautical engineering.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207064#Comment_207064 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207064#Comment_207064 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:06:02 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: skyewright(Earlier editoins of) That and "The New Science of Strong Materials: Or Why You Don't Fall Through the Floor" by the same author were on the 1st year reading list when I started my Civ Eng degree well over 30 years ago!Wonder if they do an eBook version of it, that should last another 30 years.
Basic principles are very unlikely to change.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207068#Comment_207068 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207068#Comment_207068 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:21:18 +0100 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207084#Comment_207084 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207084#Comment_207084 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:37:46 +0100 Triassic
I've now asked him to get 2 local one man bands to quote as a comparison. We will see where that takes us!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207095#Comment_207095 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207095#Comment_207095 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:54:19 +0100 owlman
My neighbour's new house extension (SE, design assisted), has to my eye steelwork enough to park half a dozen cars in the new first floor bedroom. Likewise in the new single storey rear extension. To me it seems way over engineered.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207133#Comment_207133 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207133#Comment_207133 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:33:24 +0100 Triassic
I get the feeling the SE companies are twitchy and have added a contingency to cover their twitchyness. Are basements structurally that difficult and should I be asking a basement specialist to do the structural stuff? Any suggestions?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207135#Comment_207135 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207135#Comment_207135 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:37:59 +0100 argy https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207219#Comment_207219 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207219#Comment_207219 Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:18:40 +0100 Noodle
Saying that, would recommend at all times minimising number of different firms with cross over and responsibility, timber frame company may do some SE calcs but will prob have caveats for any other works connected to the building and may not even do steels. As a very rough guide i've always thought about 2.5% of estimated budget is average. Would second going for local firms, big or small doesn't matter, more so check what you're getting. One engineer may do their own drawings, details and extensive spec while another will just mark up Architects drawings and brief sketches. Depends what you need.....]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207411#Comment_207411 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207411#Comment_207411 Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:33:02 +0100 hairydude I would expect to pay £1k - £2k for a new house SER with a decent set of structural drawings (based on my original CAD Dwgs).
The basement adds hours/cost to the engineer's input but your quote is still high imo.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207476#Comment_207476 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12443&Focus=207476#Comment_207476 Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:32:51 +0100 Triassic
Having discussed who does what, we have concluded we only need structural calculations for the foundations, basement and concrete slab ceiling/floor. The Timber Frame calculations will be sorted by the TF company.

Structural calculation costs down to £1350 + VAT.]]>