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  1.  
    I think I've finally finished my design for my kitchen, awaiting a quote from howdens in their 'sale'.

    I will then get a price comparison from a few online suppliers and showrooms.

    Can anyone recommend decent quality at low price sites?

    I am thinking of ikea although the units aren't of comparable size, wren as I know the local office manager through a friend of friend, lamtek, diy-kitchens, supply only kitchen and also wickes and maybe even B&B using my tradepoint card.

    Any other thoughts or comments?

    I quite like the idea of wren or ikea as they do finance, not that I don't have the funds available but I often like 0% deals etc.
    • CommentAuthorBeau
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2014 edited
     
    I have put together few Wickes kitchens and they have been surprisingly well made for the price. This was a few years back things may have changed. Woodfit used to make excellent base units.
    • CommentAuthorgooday
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2014
     
    I have used these people before, they supply most of Jewsons range but much cheaper. You can compare the brochures etc as the pictures are the same! Units come already built which saves time and money.

    http://www.factory-kitchens.co.uk/
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2014
     
    The normal trade discount from the likes of Howden’s and Magnets is about 75% of list price; I expect that the likes of Jewsons are the same.

    The trade likes to make you think that you are paying very little for labour. I know that Howdens will give out fake invoices showing whatever discount the kitchen fitter asks for, so that the fitter can mislead the customer into believing that all the trade discount is being passed on.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2014
     
    Ikea is rubbish quality, despite good looks and features. In the West Country, System6, Exeter can't be beat.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2014
     
    I like silver or grey cupboards, definitely not white for mine I used cream, lots of choice from the best suppliers

    What colour are doors?
  2.  
    Looking at cream doors I think
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    Take a look on ebay.co.uk lots of kitchen stuff there at varying prices and quality. Depending on the style you are looking for there are also quite a few guys doing bespoke units at affordable prices, see if you can find one relatively local and pop round to check out the quality.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2014
     
    You can buy a quality secondhand (carefully removed) kitchen on ebay and work around what you get.
    • CommentAuthordereke
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    fostertom in an ikea what specifically is rubbish?

    I installed one 4yrs ago, it has had 2yrs of use by my family and 2yrs of use by a group of students and it is still in really good condition. My dad has also installed quite a few and never had cause for complaint.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    OK perhaps unfair, just going by opinion of 2 different joiner/fitters. Certainly they are 15 chipboard not 18, which makes quite a difference apparently to ease/adaptability of assembly, and robustness/rigidity.
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Ikea kitchens are fitted in a different way to most other kitchens. This is not a problem with DIY, but is an issue for trade’s people as they don’t expect to have to do anything different from what they have been doing for the last 10 years. Pipe runs can also be harder to work round with Ikea units, much less of an issue if you are doing your own plumbing unlike a lot of kitchen fitters.

    Uncut 15mm units once fitted, screwed together and attached to the walls are more than strong enough. However sometime units do need cutting to fit, sometime there is nothing to fix a unit to.

    Most fitters will much rather have pre-build units, as they are quicker to install then flat pack.
    • CommentAuthorPaulJ
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    The Ikea stuff is 18mm. The new range is very limited in widths, 20cm increments.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    I'd better withdraw my Ikea statement - don't know from personal experience.
    • CommentAuthormarktime
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    I can't believe you made a value judgement without first hand experience and then posted it on THIS forum. Mind boggling!
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    I think a reasonable statement is that Ikea kitchens are not a good idea if you wish to use a kitchen fitter without first talking to the kitchen fitter.

    However the same could be said for any kitchen other then Howden or Magnet and with both Howden and Magnet the fitter is likely to get a better price then you, unless you are a landlord, if so google LNPG.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    That's a very high bar you're setting, marktime - would rule out all 'I've heard that ...' stuff. It's almost like real life - say something, get challenged, learn something, confirm and elaborate, or withdraw if necessary.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Posted By: fostertomIt's almost like real life - say something, get challenged, learn something, confirm and elaborate, or withdraw if necessary.
    Near enough describes the scientific method that you so hate Tom :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Except that the thought-police deem any 'saying' of something 'non scientific' is, well, non scientific, and if not illegitimate, then unworthy of attention. We understand it's only a tactic by rigid conformists, to keep uncertainty at bay, but it's far from 'scientific method'.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Tom
    I think you have totally missed the point of how the scientific method works. It is true that in a few extreme cases a counter argument may be dismissed as silly.
    My kitchen was made by the Knockers and installed by the Piskeys. :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthormarktime
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014 edited
     
    Tom, you've set your own bar high with hundreds of useful comments on this forum for many, many years.

    Though occasionally, you do go off at some queer tangents at times. :smile:

    I know, bugger off again! :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Then maybe that's OK Steamy. I bet you're glad you didn't choose the Spriggans and Browneys, those bu***rs did some crap work a few years back, "tarmac yer drive mister" had nothing on them.:bigsmile::wink:
    • CommentAuthordereke
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    I'll be ordering another ikea kitchen soon (different house!) so am pleased you don't know anything I don't :-)
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2014
     
    Thanks marktime (I think ...)
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2014
     
    My approach is to find smallish local installers who will talk to you about the wholesalers they use and happily trade information about drawers and suchlike. People who treat the carcasses and doors as separate items and don't try to sell you a range!
    • CommentAuthorCerisy
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2014
     
    Over here in France we are between a rock and a hard place - local craftsmen who cost a fortune or the kitchen showrooms who have no idea of competition / discounts to get job. The IKEA range allows us to design and install a half decent kitchen and we can make the necessary adjustments for services as we approach the kitchen install - well, this is a true self-build and we only have ourselves to please / upset!! Now we have a deadline for moving in - the kids need to move into our current house by the end of May next year - investigating options like the Danish supplier quoted previously are not viable.
    • CommentAuthormarktime
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2014
     
  4.  
    Looking to finally order up this week.

    Can I just check if my ceilings are 2.5m high I'd be best off going with 900 tall wall units? Or are 720 high suitable?

    Does anyone really utilise the space in a 900 high unit?
  5.  
    And also how about pullout rack systems? Worthwhile or waste of money?
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2014
     
    Posted By: VictorianecoCan I just check if my ceilings are 2.5m high I'd be best off going with 900 tall wall units? Or are 720 high suitable?

    720 wall cupboards are designed for use with 1970 (+150 plinth) tall units if you fit them at the 'standard' height above the worktop. 900 are designed for use with 2150 tall units. I use the top shelf in tall cupboards, my wife can't/doesn't. But then we also fit the wall cupboards lower than standard so she can reach them better.

    And also how about pullout rack systems? Worthwhile or waste of money?

    They're useful but very expensive and heavy when laden. So last time I fitted a bunch of wire vegetable baskets on individual runners instead. It was MUCH cheaper and my wife preferred them, so we'll be doing it again. So I guess the answer to your question is 'waste of money'.
   
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