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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Bit on the Beeb's website about how we use less energy now.<br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30518649" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30518649</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Doubting_Thomas</author>
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			<![CDATA[Meanwhile in the US, this has just been voted in: <a href="http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/congress-not-so-bright-idea-light-bulbs" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/congress-not-so-bright-idea-light-bulbs</a><br /><br />Wonder what William Stanley Jevons would make of it all anyway..?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[Just read this.  Quite interesting really.  Energy use in UK seemed to peak in 85 even though we now have more electrical gadgets.<br /><br />Not really surprising if this is taken as total energy use.  Car economy 100% improved in that time. House better insulated, bulbs, electronics instead of valves etc etc.]]>
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		<title>Policy or Price, or maybe something else</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[It could be argued that we now get better utility for every kg of CO2 we push out.<br />One of the measures is kg CO2/ GDP.  Not one I particularly like, but useful.  It does encourage 'exporting' the problem and then kicking the people we export the problem to.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Ed Davies</author>
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			<![CDATA[Also a lot of our raw materials and lower-grade tat is made abroad, e.g., in China, so doesn't get counted in our energy budget. Vs, much smaller quantities of higher valued exports which might have a high embodied energy per tonne but not so large per Â£10â¶.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>atomicbisf</author>
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			<![CDATA[Is it just me or does anyone else think the BBC comments feature just seems to function as an invitation to the ignorant and cantankerous to share their ill-informed views? Anything to do with energy, the environment and especially climate change is opened up for comment, but on other subjects we don't get this. For example a story on a new health treatment isn't opened to anti-vaxxers or a story about space exploration isn't opened to moon landing fakers.<br /><br />Ed]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Never noticed that, but shall keep an eye on it from now on.<br /><br />Moon is made from cheese, well known, why the Soup Dragon is there.<br />Electricity is made from Unicorn Farts, anything else is a hoax.]]>
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