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Housing - Renovation: Engineered Oak flooring

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    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2015
     
    Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer of solid core 20/21mm engineered, single strip flooring. That is where the boards are 3 ply with an oak top and bottom and a thicker centre cross ply of oak, although sometimes softwood. This, as opposed to the more common 6mm wear layer on birch ply.
    Some years ago I had a workshop sales visit from a rep. selling this stuff. Very high quality, I think it was Austrian.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2015 edited
     
    Sorry no. Some 7 years ago we went for 210mm wide 21mm engineered oak (approx. 6mm wear layer on 15mm ply) from..

    http://woodsofwales.co.uk/

    I'd got a lot of samples of engineered oak from suppliers at the building shows. They all looked good at the show but back home in natural light it was a different story. They varied in quality a lot, some were almost orange in colour. On some the ply was poor quality (fewer plys). The above co was recommended by my builder who does a lot of barn conversions. They supplied it pre-coated with hardwax oil. Very pleased with the result. We have it installed over UFH. I've no connection with the company other than as a customer.
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2015
     
    Thanks Colin, I had a look at the website and they seem to be doing some interesting solid floors too.
    • CommentAuthorUphillPhil
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2015
     
    Maybe you could find a timber merchant who makes their own engineered wood flooring and ask them to do it for you? I had a chat with Ben Sutton at Sutton Timber a few weeks ago & they claim to do their own: http://www.suttontimber.co.uk/engineered-flooring/

    Worth asking?
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2015
     
    Thanks Phil, there are quite a few timber/flooring companies around that claim to manufacture engineered flooring but to my knowledge nobody in the UK actually does the job themselves, they all sub contract, mainly to Eastern Europe, Baltic states, Ukraine etc. Some do even ship UK native timber there then bring the finished product back. If the quality is good I don't mind, but the more links in the chain?, lost in translation? etc etc.
    Your link may be the exception.
    • CommentAuthordb8000
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2015
     
    My local (east Bristol) sawmill also does flooring: https://www.bendreybros.co.uk/index.php/wooden-flooring/
    • CommentAuthorUphillPhil
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2015 edited
     
    owlman, I don't know that they actually manufacture their own - as you say, they may ship their wood out to a plant elsewhere. Worth asking though?
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    Would this work well in a kitchen area with Ufh?
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2015
     
    According to most suppliers engineered boards in general are OK with UFH.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2015
     
    We have engineered oak over UFH in 4 rooms including one bedroom. We also have stone/tile and carpet in other rooms. In order of performance and preference..

    Stone/tile
    Wood
    Carpet.

    Engineered oak is better than solid over UFH. You can use a wider board without risk of cupping and wider boards look better in my opinion. Good engineered oak is indistinguishable from solid oak once down but it can actually cost more.

    Personally I wouldn't put an oak or engineered oak floor in a kitchen as it's not very practical. I cant imagine the damage a bottle of Ribena or Beetroot could do. At least with a stone or tiled floor you could bleach it.
    • CommentAuthorUphillPhil
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2015
     
    btw, Junckers claims that their hardwood floorboards can be installed over UFH. It's in the technical datasheets.
    • CommentAuthorUphillPhil
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2015
     
    (According to a supplier I talked to, it's all down to the moisture level in the wood - if it’s low enough then it won’t warp when installed on top of UFH. Engineered wood is the safer option though.)
    • CommentAuthoradi
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2015
     
    I have junckers solid wood flooring over underfloor heating and haven't had any issues so far. I think part of the reason is that the boards are clipped together and float. The other it is important that you run your underfloor heating at a lowish temperature and don't have a massive heat requirement(all in the Junkers tech spec)

    As my property is very well insulated it meets the above requirements.
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    Posted By: VictorianecoWould this work well in a kitchen area with Ufh?

    We have had engineered wood flooring in the kitchens of our last two homes without issue. In our previous house I glued it down and in this house it is floated.

    I don't see any big difference in the result and floating was the easier and quicker option by a long shot.

    I have used a special underlay which is designed for use with UFH and is just 3mm thick with very good heat transfer properties.

    When you are using this type of underlay your sub-floor needs to be very level otherwise you will end up with soft and springy spots.

    If the flooring isn't the very last thing you do be sure and protect it with a couple of layers of corrugated cardboard, plumbers in particular are likely to wreak havoc flinging around pipe benders and the like. (Mine tried his best at least....)
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    Everything Chris said! Plus

    The last word in dimensional stability is Strand Woven Bamboo. This stuff is much harder than oak (you can forget about using a nail gun on the skirting that's for sure). It has no grain as such and with the engineered underneath is exceptionally stable. Buy it with the unclick system for fast, easy, and since I have installed loads already, foolproof installation. Surprisingly cheap too and unlike oak it is all the same 'grade' so no scare stories.

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