Green Building Forum - Amber Rudd Sun, 24 May 2026 16:56:48 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225055#Comment_225055 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225055#Comment_225055 Fri, 29 May 2015 17:30:17 +0100 ringi
This also can not happen until the UK housing sector stops being so "up and down", as no one will invest the capital in a mass production home factory, not know if there will be any demand for new built homes in 3 years time.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225061#Comment_225061 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225061#Comment_225061 Fri, 29 May 2015 22:31:39 +0100 SteamyTea
The house factory near me can make 30 houses a week. Not sure if they are.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225074#Comment_225074 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225074#Comment_225074 Sat, 30 May 2015 09:47:51 +0100 Ed Davies Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225077#Comment_225077 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225077#Comment_225077 Sat, 30 May 2015 10:14:33 +0100 borpin Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225109#Comment_225109 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225109#Comment_225109 Sat, 30 May 2015 20:55:37 +0100 GarethC
It's interesting to note the massive jump in value once planning permission is achieved (hence the incentive to tax that, as it's essentially a capital gain to the owner).

And yes, the supply of mortgage finance is a key determinant, although, unlike incomes, it can't grow at a compound rate forever (there's a discussion). House prices fell and rose in direct relation to mortgage finance drying up, then becoming available again.

Not sure if public authorities have the land or not, but they certainly shouldn't lack the finance. Banks love lending to public authorities as it's one of the safest counterparties you can have. Perhaps it's the inclination and/or other wherewithal. It's not technically in their remit to a great degree these days.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225735#Comment_225735 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225735#Comment_225735 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:37:30 +0100 SteamyTea http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/11663518/Swansea-Bay-tidal-energy-lagoon-gets-green-light-from-Amber-Rudd.html

I wonder if they really can build it for a £1bn, or about 40 quid for each household if we pay for it in one go.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225738#Comment_225738 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225738#Comment_225738 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:02:40 +0100 fostertom Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225739#Comment_225739 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225739#Comment_225739 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:04:10 +0100 fostertom Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225740#Comment_225740 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225740#Comment_225740 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:05:12 +0100 fostertom
Suppose this the end for the Severn Barrage? I was looking forward to a short drive to visit Mike in Swansea, or to collect ebay stuff that says '40 miles away' (as the crow flies).]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225886#Comment_225886 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225886#Comment_225886 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:55:35 +0100 CWatters Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225887#Comment_225887 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225887#Comment_225887 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:11:17 +0100 SteamyTea
I can understand that with some existing units there may not be a robust enough local electrical infrastructure, but not on a new build that size.

Why don't you get in touch with the developers of the solar farm and ask why they are not putting it on the new warehouse?]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225995#Comment_225995 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=225995#Comment_225995 Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:21:14 +0100 CWatters Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=226002#Comment_226002 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=226002#Comment_226002 Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:17:10 +0100 djh Posted By: CWattersI guess I'm mostly annoyed at government policy that doesn't encourage the efficient use of land. It's hard enough finding places where renewable energy won't upset local residents and the roof of this development seems ideal - very hard to see it from the ground.
Posted By: SteamyTeaWhy don't you get in touch with the developers of the solar farm and ask why they are not putting it on the new warehouse?

That seems a good start to beginning to understand whether it is indeed government policy that is at fault and if so in what way and why?]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227485#Comment_227485 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227485#Comment_227485 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 07:33:06 +0100 SteamyTea
I hope she does the same for nuclear, and all the 'backdoor' payments to the fossil fuel industries.

I just had a look at what the £1.5bn overspend, over the next five years actually means, about £12 a household if you exclude all the, or about £4 if you exclude all the non-domestic users.

£4 is the price of a pint in St.Ives.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227490#Comment_227490 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227490#Comment_227490 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:49:10 +0100 DarylP ]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227498#Comment_227498 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227498#Comment_227498 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:39:16 +0100 owlman Posted By: SteamyTeaSo in the last week and a bit, our new energy minister has cut both wind and solar subsidies.

I hope she does the same for nuclear, and all the 'backdoor' payments to the fossil fuel industries.

I just had a look at what the £1.5bn overspend, over the next five years actually means, about £12 a household if you exclude all the, or about £4 if you exclude all the non-domestic users.

£4 is the price of a pint in St.Ives.


I hope she does for Anaerobic Digesters too, at least the ones that are not farm scale/closed loop ones.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227500#Comment_227500 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227500#Comment_227500 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:55:07 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: DarylP'different type of electricity'?Yes, that made me smile too.

Posted By: owlmanI hope she does for Anaerobic Digesters too
I have mixed feelings about AD.
It does solve a waste stream problem and generate power, but it also adds to atmospheric CO2.
Used on site it can be a good power supply and benefits from stored energy, if the waste is transported I am not so sure ust how good it is. There is also the land use issues, though if farmers grows energy crops on Grade A or B land, they are probably not making best use of their assets.

I can see the argument that, once though planning, there should not be a fixed price for the energy produced, but this does not take into account the price of not having that energy.
It is a bit like buying a new car when petrol is £1.20/lt, then only having to pay £1.20/lt for the next 20 years, regardless of your mileage, and get others at the gas station to pay your bill. When you get punched on the nose and taken to hospital by someone that feels you don't deserve this special treatment, you then send the full NHS bill, and another for loss of earnings to everyone.

I think the real problem was that the last Labour government created such a muddle of schemes dismantling then is never going to be easy.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227503#Comment_227503 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227503#Comment_227503 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:45:02 +0100 fostertom Posted By: SteamyTeaAD ... adds to atmospheric CO2I thought the whole point of 'anaerobic' is that it's not an oxidation process (to CO2) - produces CH4 instead?]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227508#Comment_227508 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227508#Comment_227508 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:15:21 +0100 owlman Posted By: SteamyTeaIt ..................but it also adds to atmospheric CO2.

Dunno about that ST, but it does add atmospheric ammonia.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227518#Comment_227518 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227518#Comment_227518 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:27:45 +0100 djh Posted By: fostertomI thought the whole point of 'anaerobic' is that it's not an oxidation process (to CO2) - produces CH4 instead?
Good one, Tom! What do you suppose happens to the methane?

But seriously, it's only atmospheric oxygen that is excluded. There's still oxygen chemically bound in the feedstock and some of that gets released as CO2 anyway.

C6H12O6 → 3CO2 + 3CH4 according to wikipedia]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227521#Comment_227521 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227521#Comment_227521 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:50:29 +0100 fostertom Posted By: djhWhat do you suppose happens to the methane?I thought the other point of 'anaerobic' is that the methane is captured as fuel - so it eventually ends up as CO2 anyway. But no more and no less that wd happen anyway to the original organic matter left to itself.

So whether 'anaerobic' produces CO2, CH4 etc shd surely be completely immaterial to
Posted By: SteamyTeafeelings about AD
AD doesn't
Posted By: SteamyTeaadds to atmospheric CO2
]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227523#Comment_227523 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227523#Comment_227523 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:08:51 +0100 SteamyTea Much of it goes into the ground and gets converted to carbon. Why intensively farmed areas have low carbon content soil.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227526#Comment_227526 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227526#Comment_227526 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:28:54 +0100 fostertom Posted By: SteamyTeaMuch of it goes into the ground and gets converted to carbonEmitting hydrogen as water? What's the mechanism?
Posted By: SteamyTeaintensively farmed areas have low carbon content soil
because ploughing exposes the carbon to oxidation?]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227531#Comment_227531 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227531#Comment_227531 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:47:58 +0100 SteamyTea
I believe that ploughing can released trapped CO2 from the ground, I am not sure what mechanism it is via though.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227540#Comment_227540 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227540#Comment_227540 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:49:41 +0100 fostertom Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227543#Comment_227543 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227543#Comment_227543 Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:30:44 +0100 ted Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227545#Comment_227545 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227545#Comment_227545 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 00:09:24 +0100 ted Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227546#Comment_227546 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227546#Comment_227546 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 00:22:38 +0100 ted Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227549#Comment_227549 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227549#Comment_227549 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:21:02 +0100 Triassic Posted By: ringiUntil the planning system allows basic homes to be factory build, we will not get the cost down.
They're called park homes, usually delivered in two halves.]]> Amber Rudd https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227550#Comment_227550 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13356&Focus=227550#Comment_227550 Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:05:44 +0100 SteamyTea Not got time to look into it further at the moment, are those figures, year figures or accumulative?]]>