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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
     
    Hello again all.

    I have just moved into a 1892 cottage which has lath and plaster walls and ceilings. These need to be smoothed out, holes and cracks repaired etc so I can paint. Should I just get rid and get it re plastered or should I touch it up and get the rooms skimmed or just use a primer of some description and paint??

    While I'm here the house is oviously cold and leaky due to solid walls and no air tightness to talk of. Is there any insulation that wont loss me space, the rooms are already small. Also if i do get rid of the lath and plaster would there be enough space to fit a little insulation before replastering/plasterboards? ( I don't really want plasterboards due to charcter of the house)

    Thanks

    Agu
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    What are the walls outside? Could you do external insulation?
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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Hey Tony,

    It's a solid brick wall and I don't really want to change the appearance of the house which I think happens if you do it externally
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    You can fix sheet insulation and then brick slips if its bricks you want and point it so no one can tell. Special corner brick slips available too.
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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Ok, how much extra space would I need??
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    depends on how much insulation say 70mm incl slips
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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Thanks Tony.

    Do you know anything of the best way to do my Larth and Plaster walls
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    lime plaster again?
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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Wjat take them out completly and then just lime plaster?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    not sure where these walls are
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    Do not destroy any historic fabric. But you are allowed to remove th 'r' to reveal the genuine lath.
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    Agu,

    If you cant externally for appearance or insulate or internally because of space reasons and loss of thermal mass, I suppose the key thing is airtightness and compensating elsewhere if possible....

    J


    Larth and Plarster.... ....you're just not posh enough Biff.

    :wink:
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    If the plaster's just cracked but is otherwise still bonded to the laths, then a few coats of limewash will consolidate the surface, fill the cracks and also act as a very ecologically sound finish. Otherwise keep the laths and replaster with lime plaster.
    I wouldn't worry about making the house air-tight. That sort of structure was meant to breathe to control moisture, and if you make it aritight you lay yourself open to all sorts of damp and condensation problems. For sure, get rid of drafts and gales, but stop short of sealing the place up or using impermeable materials.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    There is a subtle difference between breathable and air-tight. One is acceptable and even desirable whereas the opposite of the other one is insane.
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      CommentAuthorrogerwhit
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Cherish the lath and plaster of your internal partition walls. You can hack off any loose bits, retaining the laths if unbroken, and patch-repair with new haired lime plaster, and fill dents with fine lime finish plaster.

    Connectedly, I've had a little success removing vinyl emulsion from lime plaster by using a belt sander running at low speed. The object is then to use clay or other 'breathable' paint so that the plaster can act as a buffer for moisture in the air.
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      CommentAuthoragu
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
     
    Thank you one and all and I will try and spell lath right next time biff!

    Agu
    • CommentAuthorbens
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
     
    If you want to preserve the integrity of the building leave the lath and plaster is my advice. We are hacking off relatively smooth modernish (circa80 years old.) plaster and replacing with lime for the more bumpy look. Hard lines from plaster board and perfect hard render make a historic building look and feel like motorway motels.

    Enjoy the history and look to the windows (e.g. secondary glazing) and ceiling (insulation) to make it warmer if need be.
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