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Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthorJoeSmith
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2016
     
    Can anyone give me some guidance on how to work out where to locate a chimney canopy/hood above an open fire? I.e, is there an optimal distance it should be above the fire?

    We've just moved in and had to have the chimney inspected as a condition of insurance (it's a thatch) which revealed that it isn't lined so we're not allowed to use the woodburner. On the plus side we are allowed an open fire and don't have to have the chimney swept twice a year but only once, we can cook on it and we can flog the woodburner. We've acquired a fire back, fire basket and chimney canopy which is made of steel and will pass through the registry plate once I've cut the required hole in it. I just need to know if there are any rules that govern how high above the fire it should be.
    • CommentAuthorCliff Pope
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2016
     
    Some guide figures here:


    https://www.homebuilding.co.uk/2012/04/25/inglenook-fireplaces/


    I'd have thought it needs to be a compromise between catching most of the smoke (do your own experiments with burning newspaper) and not being so close to the fire that it catches all the heat too.
  1.  
    I take it that would have to be a ceramic or concrete lining rather than just flexible stainless steel? If it were me I would still be looking at ways (if I had to burn solid fuel) to ensure that I *could* use a stove. Comparative efficiencies are possibly as low as 10-20% with an open fire and say 70-ish-plus-ish for a stove.

    http://www.soliftec.com/openfires.htm
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    Posted By: Nick ParsonsComparative efficiencies are possibly as low as 10-20% with an open fire and say 70-ish-plus-ish for a stove

    I seem to recall an article from years back that showed that the overall effect of an open fire burning for 8 hours a day was negative to the overall heating of the house. In other words more heat was lost up the chimney when the fire was not lit that was given off into the house for the 8 hours the fire was alight!!!!:sad:
    • CommentAuthorCliff Pope
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2016
     
    That would depend partly on whether there was a plate to close off the chimney at the bottom when not in use?

    Also I think it's missing the point of an open fire. No one pretends its purpose is to efficiently heat the whole house. There are better ways of achieving that. The point is to provide an intense focus of radiant heat in one room for the time it is lit. If you are cold even a bonfire outside is welcome.
    • CommentAuthorsnyggapa
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2016
     
    not sure if closing off flues is safe or legal though. It's certainly not safe in my opinion, you only need to forget to open it once - or have it fall closed when you are not in the room. I don't know about legal

    -Steve
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