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    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2017
    I honestly thought you were being serious.

    My faith is restored, hallelujah!
    Ahhhhhh sorrrrrry gravelld! You've been on your project too long!

    Yes there are 2 houses build on the same site at the same time.

    And I agree absolutely with you Tom, if you ask the right question in the right way you will get the right answer and that both houses need expensive re-rendering sooner rather than later from a builder who both can't AND won't AND there is no effective recourse, is obviously the wrong answer!

    I will still post a couple of pics for your collective entertainment but I won't look up the system (not that it will turn out that the system was used I am sure) or try to help further unless specifically approached again.

    A point for thought: an analytical and careful read of this thread would reveal that it was pretty rubbish: questions not answered, repeat and still not answered, previous comments not read properly by several people resulting in red herrings, misunderstandings, all in all rather incoherent. I was hoping the collective might of this Forum would help (I sent both houses a link) but in this case not as much as I hoped. But then I got what I paid for!
    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2017
    My project is still in design status and not looking like getting any further :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorGotanewlife
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017 edited
    Hmmmm gravelld, methinks you chose the wrong emijo! :cry:

    Anyway as promised for your entertainment some pics of perfectly normal trouble free EWI (that corner is an internal corner):
      IMG_20170406_133319 (2).jpg
      IMG_20170406_133506 (2).jpg
      IMG_20170406_133301 (2).jpg
      IMG_20170406_133406 (2).jpg
    • CommentAuthorGotanewlife
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017 edited
    There's a few issues with the painting as well but that's trivial in comparison:
      IMG_20170406_133248 (2).jpg
      IMG_20170406_133232 (2).jpg
    Well, as you say, all perfectly normal! Normal for what, I am not sure!
    Neither the base render nor the top coat look like the render adhesive and thin film acrylic top coat that we use over here !! So I wonder what it is ??
    Ahhhh Peter don't get confused. As I said the last 2 pictures are of the PAINT. This is flaking off in a couple of isolated places and is very much unrelated to the EWI, other than being indicative of the workmanship. I probably shouldn't have made that last post. Obviously through render cracks will dramatically increase the chances of paint flaking but as you can see most of the flaking paint isn't associated with a render crack.

    I really don't see a solution that doesn't involve mesh - ie a full system re-render. The extra cost of using render adhesive and mesh over just a new top coat are small when you think of the scafolding costs and the significant risk of finding the top coat alone wasn't good enough and that the whole house needs yet another re-render. Clearly any loose paint would have to be removed first!
    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2017
    So is this "Verbundsysteme" an actual thing?

    Using Google translate it appears to mean a network or interconnection (computer scientists would call it a graph) or dare I say it... a mesh?

    Personally whoever is behind this should be named and shamed, but appreciate you have better things to do.
    Posted By: GotanewlifeI really don't see a solution that doesn't involve mesh - ie a full system re-render.

    Yup - that's the best fix, - however a new top coat could probably be done with ladders and a roller on a broom handle. (depending upon the height of the walls / gables)
    Hmmmm - that might be tempting I imagine, the builder might be persuaded even. Ho humm. Ta Peter, I hadn't realised.
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2017
    Won't a new top coat still need something to stop the cracks reappearing? Like mesh or perhaps embedded fibres?
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