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    • CommentAuthordelprado
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2017
     
    I hate keys. Surely there is a better option nowadays?
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2017
     
    I have the reverse problem. I don't think anything better than a mechanical lock with keys has yet been invented and it's starting to become problematic to find a car that uses them.

    Works without any need for power. Is not remotely accessible. Can't be hacked, although of course locks have their own weaknesses.

    Keys with dimples instead of ragged edges are kinder on pockets. I find key wallets too cumbersome.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2017
     
    I don’t have keys, fingerprint reader and a plip,like cars have too
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2017
     
    I've keyed alike all the exterior locks on my home. I've used the "dimpled" key type that djh mentioned all with "break secure" euro cylinders to prevent bumping.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2017 edited
     
    Posted By: owlmanI've keyed alike all the exterior locks on my home.

    Yes, here too, but we still have loads of keys. Firstly the patio door supposedly can't use the same key as the rest of the locks, despite them all having Assa-Abloy cylinders; I've no idea why. Then there are two keys for outside storage doors, a key for the garage and one for the shed, and of course a separate key for the electricty meter.

    Edit: I forgot the key for the post box and the one for the window locks.
    • CommentAuthordelprado
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2017
     
    Tony can you share what you use?

    I know what you mean though Dave, I hate the new cars, which is why I am keeping my old Honda Jazz :)
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2017
     
    for djh; I'm surprised too that Assa Abloy can't key alike your patio doors. If they have cylinders, either Oval or Euro it shouldn't make a difference. I recently saw a picture of their "code handle"; A modern SS handle with built in key code buttons.
    When I built my sunroom I bought in the multipoint locks without cylinders and got them made separately. On a couple of infrequently used doors I put in single sided cylinders with no key access from outside at all.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2017
     
    Fingerprint reader from Australia, there are lots about triggers via my home automation system and a normal retrofit car 'plip' triggers the same circuit, I have an electric lock but lots use electric keep.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2017
     
    No personal experience, but there are various reviews on the internet if you search for 'smart locks'. But I'd suggest clearing whatever you choose with your insurance company before buying - some of them are (or were) easily defeated: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/high-security-locks-cracked
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2017
     
    Posted By: owlmanI'm surprised too that Assa Abloy can't key alike your patio doors.

    To be fair, that's what I was told by the supplier and I've never actually bothered to go to the horse's mouth and ask A-A themselves. But given the number of other keys we have, I'm not sure one less would make much difference.
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    Be like the Queen and have a Regiment ;-) .
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2017
     
    Some burglar alarms can be operated by wireless remote rather than keypad. The remote for ours (Visonic) has a spare button on it that I believe can be programmed to operate an electrical output on the panel. That could be connected to an electronic door lock or driveway gate opener etc. This would allow you to lock the house with a simple click of the wireless remote like you do your car. Could set it up so it turned the alarm on at the same time or just worked the lock. Probably even have it send you a text when its locked/unlocked.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2017
     
    Posted By: CWattersSome burglar alarms can be operated by wireless remote rather than keypad. The remote for ours (Visonic) has a spare button on it that I believe can be programmed to operate an electrical output on the panel. That could be connected to an electronic door lock or driveway gate opener etc. This would allow you to lock the house with a simple click of the wireless remote like you do your car. Could set it up so it turned the alarm on at the same time or just worked the lock. Probably even have it send you a text when its locked/unlocked.

    Given that deadlocks are de rigeur for insurance companies ... would you want the lock to fail open or fail closed if there was a mains failure? Prevent burglars gaining easy access or risk being trapped in a fire?
    • CommentAuthorRick_M
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2017
     
    there are deadbolt keypad locks available (no experience of them but have heard positive reviews)
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    Given the well documented issues with car remote locks using them for home security has always seemed a really bad idea to me.

    Key-alike and multi-point deadlocks (our front door has one of these - https://www.randrsecurity.com/gu-secury-auto-a3-1770-multipoint-lock-3-deadlocks?language=en¤cy=GBP - simply pull shut like a 'yale' and it deadbolts at three points. ) so you can get in with a single key seems convenient enough.

    If your'e going to have any form of powered lock a back up power supply seems essential. (Sometimes I think people do get too hung up about front door security and locks - a lot of old doors are easy enough to kick a panel out of and even if the door is secure if someone wants to get in then breaking a back window is going to be quicker and easier than trying to defeat any thing more complex than a "yale" type lock)
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2017
     
    Posted By: Simon StillSometimes I think people do get too hung up about front door security and locks
    I agree, most burglars are usually drug addicts and have little regard for life or property, including their own. It is not all Ocean's 11 and the Pink Panther.
    • CommentAuthorSteveZ
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2017
     
    If you have the usual Eurolocks fitted, and you want to frighten yourself, look up lock-snapping and 'bumping' on t'internet. It worked for me! I now have all new Yale cylinders with anti-snapping and anti-bumping features. They were not that expensive and fortunately all the same inside and outside fitting lengths, so not too complicated an order in my case.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2017 edited
     
    Posted By: Simon StillKey-alike and multi-point deadlocks (our front door has one of these - https://www.randrsecurity.com/gu-secury-auto-a3-1770-multipoint-lock-3-deadlocks?language=en¤cy=GBP - simply pull shut like a 'yale' and it deadbolts at three points. ) so you can get in with a single key seems convenient enough.

    Ours aren't 'key wind' locks; instead you close the door, which latches automatically, then you raise the handle to engage the multipoints and make the airtight seal. Finally you can lock it with the key if you wish, which just engages the deadlock so the key is very easy to turn. We find it very convenient to be able to go out to the garden or the rubbish bin without having to take a key with us, for example.
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2017
     
    Delprado: define "better"?
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: djh</cite>We find it very convenient to be able to go out to the garden or the rubbish bin without having to take a key with us, for example.</blockquote>

    That's the one disadvantage with our lock - it lacks a 'don't lock' catch - though we just pull the door to. If the wind catches it and it closes it's would only be an issue if no-one else was in the house and both the neighbours (who have spare keys) were away.

    The upside is not having to get your keys out when shutting the door behind you to leave - just pull the door shut.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2017
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: djh</cite>Given that deadlocks are de rigeur for insurance companies ... would you want the lock to fail open or fail closed if there was a mains failure? Prevent burglars gaining easy access or risk being trapped in a fire?</blockquote>

    Fit a backup battery and a manual release inside.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2017 edited
     
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2017
     
    Wasn't it wonderful black humour ST, absolutely classic. I was an avid follower of the whole series, a pity it hasn't been repeated,- we can but hope.
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    It's all on Netflix (and you can get your first month free).

    New episodes next year --
    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-08-23/bbc-confirms-league-of-gentlemen-will-return-to-television-this-year/
  5.  
    League of Gentlemen repeats start tonight at 10 onbbc four.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2017
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzL_wyMahU

    They are making a new one apparently.
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