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		<title>So, Volkswagen was the scapegoat..</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2017 07:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>cjard</author>
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			<![CDATA[Caught this a week or so ago, interesting read:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/how_toxic_is_your_car_exhaust</a><br /><br />Long story short, VWAG were caught cheating a test that is worse than useless at determining real world emissions, and probably punished inappropriately because their modern engines arenâ€™t actually the worst on the road. Plenty of other makers do well in the test but in a real world situation their engines are up to 15 times worse than published figures. New tests promise to end the problem, but weâ€™re stuck with a generation of motors that are truly horrendous for our own health..]]>
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		<title>So, Volkswagen was the scapegoat..</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2017 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>finnian</author>
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			<![CDATA[I think it would be fairer to say that Volkswagen were one of the principal culprits in this diesel scandal, and were punished relatively leniently given the magnitude of the health impacts: how many died here? It is of course unfair that other automakers have escaped punishment.<br /><br />Looks like most people have now come to the conclusion that diesels from any manufacturer are dodgy, which seems about right. Also we are seeing policies implying that full electrification is the only way forward in the long term.<br /><br />The manufacturers are also partly to blame for the not-very-useful emissions standards, of course, due to continued lobbying for these to be watered down (although the politicians and the idiots who elect them should really mostly shoulder the blame for that). The UK played a significant role here pushing for weaker emission standards.]]>
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		<title>So, Volkswagen was the scapegoat..</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>gravelld</author>
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			<![CDATA[And repeat for household energy use.<br /><br />Measurement is inaccurate and enforcement lenient.<br /><br />Vested interests are given a seat at the table and lobby for the status quo.<br /><br />I'm sure there are other sectors affected.]]>
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		<title>So, Volkswagen was the scapegoat..</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 08:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>cjard</author>
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			<![CDATA[In that article, petrol got a blasting too. Additionally, diesels from a few manufacturers perform better than prescribed limits in real world driving so there are options for ICEs that meet targets rather than cheat them..]]>
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