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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jamster</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi everyone,<br /><br />As part of some planning for PV + battery install (or not), I would like to record our power consumption with as much granularity as possible - down to 15 min or 30 min intervals ideally?  I can access the incoming mains cable - is there a clip on logger / transmitter I can use?<br /><br />I know there are DIY solultions, but I don't have the skills or time really so if anyone has a system or device they can recomend before I plunge into the web, I'd be grateful.<br /><br />Thanks.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[I used CurrentCost devices.  You will have to hunt about on eBay as they are no longer made.<br />You then have to connect them up to a data logger, usually a Raspberry Pi and tinker a bit with the output file.<br />When I was involved in energy metering, I never found a cheap (sub Â£100) logger.<br />One of the problems is that most wanted to upload the data to a website and display as they saw fit.  Not always what you actually want.<br /><br />You may well find that your inverter has logging built in.  I know that some had it that was accessible via Bluetooth and needed no extra hardware, though installers often charged for extra kit unnecessarily.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jamster</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thanks Steamy; nothing fitted yet, I wanted to try and best see when our power usage is over a day and how this would fit against PV generation curves to see if I can make a more educated decision on if storage is worthwhile or not.<br /><br />As you say, all I want to do at this point is download some data locally, not access or display in real time over the web...]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Where in the country are you?  If fairly local I could cobble a bit of kit together and set it up for you.  I am down in West Cornwall, so nowhere is local to me, in a way.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jamster</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: SteamyTea</cite>Where in the country are you?  If fairly local I could cobble a bit of kit together and set it up for you.  I am down in West Cornwall, so nowhere is local to me, in a way.</blockquote><br /><br />That's very very kind of you but sadly I'm in Durham so not exactly local (as I discovered when we holidayed on Mount's Bay this summer)...  Frankly, I would happily pay you (or make a donation somewhere) for your time / kit if it was the best way to get the job done though - should we see how this thread goes?]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Did you like the rain, was not a good summer.  Can't even hide in The Coffee Lounge now as it is residence only.<br /><br />I shall have a little look about and see what is available as I have not done much monitoring for the last few years.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jamster</author>
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			<![CDATA[We had a great time TBH, we got a bit of everything but it was still warmer than Durham!  Even got a heritage train ride in...<br /><br />Thanks for your monitoring help too!]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[You could ask your electricity supplier to fit a smart meter and get the data emailed to you.  It is at the half hour level.<br />I think I may have some PV and house hold data on the PC (I am away at the moment).  Shall see what it shows as an example.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>goodevans</author>
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			<![CDATA[If you electricity meter that has a flashing LED (one flash Per watt hour) - there are sensors that will read and transmit the flashes via wifi. This has the benefit of measuring what the electricity meter is actually charging you for.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>sam_cat</author>
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			<![CDATA[OWL Intuition-E should fit the bill. I used one of the older ones and was very happy with it.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Quick Chart over a badly designed system (2 kWp, East, South split).]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 12:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'd suggest getting an OpenEnergyMonitor. <a href="https://openenergymonitor.org/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">https://openenergymonitor.org/</a>  You can buy kits or complete products. There are various versions and its all very expandable. <a href="https://guide.openenergymonitor.org/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">https://guide.openenergymonitor.org/</a>  <a href="https://shop.openenergymonitor.com/emonpi-3/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">https://shop.openenergymonitor.com/emonpi-3/</a>  There's a fairly active community.<br /><br />Basically, if you want to measure your energy usage, you clip a small device around your incoming mains wire (a 'CT') and connect it to a computer-based device that analyses the data, logs it and displays it. There are options for all parts.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'd second the OEM stuff. Very flexible, can add in room temp and humidity monitor, there is a PV diversion that someone has done. If you are a tinkerer then don't go for the EmonPi version but put it together from bits.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>ActivePassive</author>
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			<![CDATA[I used OWLs in the past, now favour Geo Solo II, as they can also automatically read the flashing LED on the meter, and don't suffer the power factor/inductive/capacitive errors of most clip based meters, including the OWLs.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Another cheap and easy way is to just read your meter.  It does not have to be at the same time, but note the time you read it.<br />Once you have 1000 readings over a couple of months, it should give you a fairly good indication of what is going on.<br /><br />I like the open energy stuff, just found it expensive at the time.<br /><br />A 10 quid Pi Zero W can read just about any USB input and put a time stamp on it.<br />Does take a bit of fiddling to get working which Jamster was trying to avoid.<br /><br />I agree that the ones that can read the pulse LED are the better ones.<br /><br />Have a look though this lot, you may find something.<br /><a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/current-cost-envir" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/current-cost-envir</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: SteamyTea</cite>I agree that the ones that can read the pulse LED are the better ones.</blockquote>OEM do a pulse reader option.]]>
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