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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff B</author>
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			<![CDATA[Earlier in this thread I asked a question about how to prevent heat rising up through two dry lined partition walls in our dormer bungalow but haven't had any responses as yet. Any ideas welcomed! I know this is happening because there are two frost free strips on the roof which coincide with the positions of these internal walls. (We don't have any snow, yet!).]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>dimengineer</author>
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			<![CDATA[I checked over the last few days - we got the dump of 20cm snow on Saturday (West London) - I have that nasty useless multifoil (according to some) insulation. And I have to say its one of the best in the street for the "snow staying on the roof longest" contest.<br /><br />So Multifoil does work pretty well. <br /><br />Tim]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Jeff B</cite>Earlier in this thread I asked a question about how to prevent heat rising up through two dry lined partition walls in our dormer bungalow but haven't had any responses as yet. Any ideas welcomed! I know this is happening because there are two frost free strips on the roof which coincide with the positions of these internal walls. (We don't have any snow, yet!).</blockquote><br /><br />You could cut a strip of plasterboard off, all the way along the top of the wall near the ceiling, stuff plenty of fibreglass or similar up into the top of the cavity (filling any void above the ceiling if possible) and then replace the plasterboard sections and redecorate.  If you fill the rest of the cavity while you're in there it will improve the soundproofness too.<br /><br />Or you could consider drilling a smaller hole and filling the cavities with polystyrene beads or warmcell, blown in.  I don't think that's easy to "DIY" though.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[thee small holes (30mm) near the top (75mm down) for me and stuff with ling cut strips of fibreglass till no more will go in, aiming at filling the void in the top of the wall. It sounds like they nailed the studs to the side of a rafter to me building you an in-house winter cooling system.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Ok here is a picture for you lot, what is going on here?<br /><br />I don't know 100% but I have a pretty good idea of what is going on.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>bot de paille</author>
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			<![CDATA[Partition walls?<br /><br />not joking this time]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Well, that is not what I was thinking, but I do think it has something to do with party walls. The large glazed middle window is a stair well.<br /><br />Any more ideas?<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff B</author>
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			<![CDATA[Evan and Tony: thanks for your replies. I quite fancy the Warmcell idea as the holes would only need to be quite small then. Does this stuff HAVE to be blown in, or is it sufficiently free-flowing to pour in? I can imagine it would cost the proverbial arm and a leg to have a specialist firm come here for about 10 minutes work and using about 2 small bags of Warmcell!]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Timber's one --  I recon that they are partition walls with fire stops at the top and under the tiles too.<br /><br />This insulates the back of the tiles and stops all air movement behind the tiles stopping the snow melting.<br /><br />interesting bit on the left presumably in an unoccupied flat with raised ceiling ties? Similarly centre front.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Tony - that was my thinking. Infact I suspect they might be solid 215 mm blockwork party walls, therfore no thermal bypass, and sufficiently cold to help keep the snow in place.<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>bot de paille</author>
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			<![CDATA[Its insulation in the partition walls or a  firestop, dont think its becasue the partition walls are cold.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Wont they be the same temperature as the loft at least at the top]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Bot and tony.<br /><br />I do that that the firestopping insulation at the head of the wall is helping to insulate the tiles and keep the snow. The thought procress behind the solid wall ideas was that during the night the solid walls are cooling down, and during the day when the sun comes out and shines on the snow/tiles, the wall is then cooler than the air and tiles and so helps keep the snow there. Good old thermal mass?<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[what sun <img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/smile.gif" alt=":smile:" title=":smile:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thermal bypass up the party wall in an eighties terrace in the background.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Not snow but what about this then?<br /><br />Brand new houses, only a few months old.<br /><br />My guess is bathroom extractor fans or some-such. Not terrible I know, but still.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>nikhoward</author>
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			<![CDATA[Or a boiler in the loft?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[I would say heat leak up the cavity?]]>
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