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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:21:07 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Are they serious!  Paving of driveways and  patios is adding to the risk of flooding!<br /><br />The additional area of newly paved driveways last year was minuscule compared to the areas on which rain falls and runs off from.<br /><br />Like so small it is in parts per billion! So this will contribute to reducing the risk of flooding like not spitting into a river would.<br /><br />Crazy  --  and the cost of setting up the laws, infrastructure and the non enforcement makes it all sustainable --  can government be described as unsustainable?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:31:45 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[Ah, but those who make pervious systems will be able to have the pants off us won't they.<br /><br />It will be interesting to see them try to enforce this one. What are they going to do, survey every house so they know who has and hasn't got tarmac/concrete/chippins/bark etc etc first?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:33:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thinking more, what level of permiability triggers a planning application? Are they going to do tests?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:38:21 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Chris Wardle</author>
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			<![CDATA[Growth of government definitely unsustainable, but they will keep "building their pyramid" until we stop passing them blocks.  Not a penny more I say!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:54:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>David R</author>
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			<![CDATA['parts per billion'??? 12 square miles of front driveways/gardens have been paved over in London- that's 2% of the entire land area. That must significantly increase the surface water run-off when there is heavy rainfall, so it's no surprise that they want to control further development.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:53:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[In what time frame has this paving over taken place?<br /><br />Water will run off from any type of ground. Once full of water it will run off from previous paving too.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:31:03 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>biffvernon</author>
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			<![CDATA[So small?  Yeah, like raindrops are small so we don't need to worry about them.<br /><br />Most impervious surfaces are made of concrete.  Just stop using the stuff.  I park my van on grass.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:11:05 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[&gt; Most impervious surfaces are made of concrete. Just stop using the stuff.  I park my van on grass. <br /><br />Just as long as it's next to a path that meets Part M (Disabled Access).<br /><br />The council tree officer insisted our driveway was gravel to protect nearby trees, then the BCO insisted there had to be a surface suitable for wheel users to get to street level. In the end he allowed our gravel driveway because "we are in the countryside so most wheelchair users will arrive by car". We ended up constructing a gravel drive with a parking area/ramp of reinforced grass.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:17:40 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>simeon</author>
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			<![CDATA[The issue is important. <br /><br />See this article :<br /><br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4654362.stm" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4654362.stm</a><br /><br />Simeon]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:18:01 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>chipedwood</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hmmm so paving our gardens is a no no, but building on a flood plain is quite ok<br /><br />This doesn't seem as big a problem as the fact that a lot of our towns and citys are built on old flood plains. <br /><br />But on the other hand, we do drain all our surface water into these rivers that are bursting their banks. So I can see a link here. <br /><br />more soak-aways I say!]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:24:50 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jon</author>
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			<![CDATA[Where do you get this information from Tony?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:51:49 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[Which information?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:53:30 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jon</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi Tony<br /><br />Information about Planning changing <br /><br />Thanks!]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:52:32 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Terry</author>
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			<![CDATA[on the news the last day or two]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:17:30 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jon</author>
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			<![CDATA[Nothing formal or just a rumour?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:24:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[formal -- planning will be required for impervious paving -- ie a fee for one thing.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:14:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>helen@carms</author>
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			<![CDATA[Had a welsh assembly government person around with a survey which asked lots of questions around my thoughts (such that they were) on pervious paving, rainwater harvesting, soak aways.. Makes me wonder what in Wales we have planned for this.  Does anyone know if these parts of the planning laws are going to be devolved in Wales? I know some are being devolved. Because then we could end up with to different sets of planning laws.... (see how that pyramid now has an extension! - to building regs, of course)]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:53:22 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>TheDoctor</author>
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			<![CDATA[if you look at a typical town / city expansion, where houses number the thousands, and those little detached boxes are rammed into sites at 10-12 per acre, and each house has a driveway, and is served by roads, a CONSIDERABLE area of that landscape is now hardstanding.<br /><br />Water run off from an impervious surface is instantaneous, and straight to drains and water courses.<br /><br />Normal farmland releases water at something like 4 litres per hectare per second.<br /><br />SUDS requires developers to attenuate run-off to meet virgin greenfiled levels, and not flash flood local watercourses down stream.<br /><br />Look at West Edinburgh. What a total f*ck-up, and all the problems of the Gyle and further afield meet to cause the 1 in 200 flood scenario on the River Almond to occur with frightening regularity.<br /><br />Yes - YOUR driveway is a small part, a miniscule part of the problem. Doesn't give you an excuse to ignore it.]]>
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