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    • CommentAuthordelprado
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2018
    Whats the consensus here? A good thing, or a pointless extravagance?
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2018
    I don't think there's a single right view about oak frames. If they're done right, they will last many centuries. They can also look very beautiful. On the other hand there are generally cheaper ways of building, including some that may last as long, and there are other ways of making beautiful buildings. So if somebody wants to build, or just live in, an oak-framed building then good luck to them say I. But I'm equally pleased for people who want to live in other types of houses, I'm just distressed for those who have to live in plasterboard tents and suchlike.
    • CommentAuthorDarylP
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2018
    ... depends on how much you pay for the oak E/O other forms of construction ...? and how you will mitigate the shrinkage in the 'frame'...?
    Just a thought - I know someone (in the UK) who is renovating and extending an old house and they are using exposed oak beams and they are importing them from France because they can't get suitable British beams.

    The point being whilst they look good sourcing the timber is proving to be a pain (and expensive)
    • CommentAuthorArtiglio
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2018
    Any form of construction thats done well to a good design and suits its surrounding is good for me, may not be my cup of tea , but the dreams and wants of others encourage and foster skills of all involved. Oak frame has the sustainability issue, true english oak in sufficient quantity for a good sized timber frame is likely to be eye wateringly expensive in the absence of your own estate on which it grows, (even then i’d personally struggle to bring myself to fell it, unless it was part of comprehensive management programme protected in trust)

    My late father put over 60 tons of oak into a longterm project ( structure/1st/ second fix) started in the mid nineties. The overall end project is a masterpiece of understated living, ( renovation/ conversion of a very old mill and associated buildings long abandoned)

    The original spec was for english oak throughout, this soon became impractical in sourcing and cost , french oak was used for the majority of the structural timbers, probably indistinguishable to the casual visitor , but obvious to someone with a bit of knowledge and a keen eye, but 200 years from now it’ll just add to the history and charm
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2018 edited
    Be ready for lots of shrinkage, twisting, shakes, dripping oil, staining, warping, not ideal for maintainance or air tightness but looks and smells nice.
    • CommentAuthordelprado
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2018
    So why are they built? Why not use a softwood?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2018
    • CommentAuthorDarylP
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2018
    TF lengths are kiln-dried...?
    oak (French!) air-dried for 7 - 8 years still twists, shakes, shrinks when inside ambient internal environment.
    Season for 150 years, and you will be fine......:shocked:
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