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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2018
     
    We have pop-up ("click clack") basin wastes and I'm becoming tired of having to unjam them. So short of some miracle cure, I'm looking for an alternative.

    A plug and chain is simplest, and acceptable to SWMBO. But there's no hole in the basin to fix the chain to. Are there any fittings that would allow it to be secured to the overflow hole? Or I suppose I could wrap the chain around the tap, but that would look pretty naff.

    Or what is a Retained Basin Waste? There's a photo of one at https://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Retained-Basin-Waste/dp/B00NJSSUAM but I don't understand what it is.

    SWMBO doesn't like flip tops, and lever-operated ones are impractical to retrofit I think?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2018
     
    we use the ones that seem to hinge in the middle and are easy to open/close and to clean,
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2018
     
    You mean a flip top? Like this https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1-14-slotted-flip-top-basin-313-20557
    Those are ones SWMBO doesn't like.
    • CommentAuthorgyrogear
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2018
     
    Posted By: djhOr what is a Retained Basin Waste? There's a photo of one athttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Retained-Basin-Waste/dp/B00NJSSUAM" rel="nofollow" >https://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Retained-Basin-Waste/dp/B00NJSSUAMbut I don't understand what it is.


    I just installed one of these ! Great !

    I had to RTFM ("read the booklet"...) , as I did not understand what it was for !

    Few minutes later, pleasant surprise ! You just hit it on the head and it locks down then U can fill the basin; then when you hit it on the head again, it pops up and drains the basin -- why did nobody think of this decades ago!!

    gg,
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2018
     
    I fitted one of these, - like your original idea, the pull up plug, remains fixed it just tilts to one side. It works fine.

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/retained-basin-waste/57005
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2018
     
    Posted By: owlmanI fitted one of these, - like your original idea, the pull up plug, remains fixed it just tilts to one side. It works fine.

    Ah, good, thanks. I wondered if it worked like that. I may try that. In the meantime, I greased the click-clack again, and ordered a loose rubber plug that just sits in the hole and is sealed by water pressure. Not terribly elegant, but practical.

    I thought I'd replied to gg, saying I thought he was describing a click-clack, and the problem is that they jam unless greased regularly, but my reply seems to have got lost somewhere.
    • CommentAuthorgyrogear
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2018
     
    Posted By: djhthe problem is that they jam unless greased regularly, but my reply seems to have got lost somewhere.


    thanks, DJH, I'll take note of that !

    gg
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    Last waste I fitted was an easy clean click-clack like this: https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/easy-clean-slotted-basin-waste-with-removable-click-clack-ebw04

    The whole mechanism lifts out which not only makes it easy to remove hair and stuff, but also easy to unjam. I think it's a worthwhle improvement on the click-clack design.
    • CommentAuthormarsaday
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2018
     
    We had the same issue, so i swapped it for a flip top. So far much improved, but we tend not to fill the basin up anyway, so it always stays in the open mode.
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    We unscrewed the plug from the pop up mechanism after it jammed one time too often, and just used it loose, was big enough not to get lost.

    The retained plugs were intended for public toilets as they are difficult to nick or vandalise, but none the worse for that, our local pub has them.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2018
     
    Posted By: WillInAberdeenWe unscrewed the plug from the pop up mechanism after it jammed one time too often, and just used it loose, was big enough not to get lost.

    Right, but how do you open it after having it closed?
    • CommentAuthorFred56
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2018
     
    I have used a couple of IKEA Orrevik basin wastes. Very simple and very cheap. So far so good, no leaks.
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    >>Right, but how do you open it after having it closed?

    It sits higher without the mechanism pulling it down, so easy to lift it out, or push it to one side.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2018
     
    Posted By: Fred56I have used a couple of IKEA Orrevik basin wastes. Very simple and very cheap. So far so good, no leaks.

    The only thing I can find is an ORREVIK Sink strainer. It's not clear from the picture how it works or what size it is. Some forums say it is a non-standard size?
    • CommentAuthorFred56
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2018
     
    Hi
    The item number I bought from Ikea was 045.607.85. They connect to standard McAlpine basin traps.

    It's Ikea's traps that are a problem connecting to british waste pipes. Ikea deny it but one trawl of the internet reveals the rest of the UK disagrees.
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