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    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2018
     
    I need to make a hole for a new sliding door, about 4.5m. Cavity wall.

    I assumed this was just with two steel beams (RSJs) under each leaf. But if I search for "cavity wall lintel" I get results like these: https://iglintels.com/lintels/standard-lintels/100mm-inner-leaf-100mm-outer-leaf-lintels/

    Are those just new build only or can they be used in a refurb? I couldn't find anything related to this at the above site.

    Any best practice details for retrofit lintels in a cavity wall? Couldn't find much. No chance of EWI or IWI.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2018
     
    It is best to build those lintels in, sometimes they say build three courses of bricks on them

    It will be tricky to find one for a narrow enough cavity and for a 4.5m opening you ought to be getting an engineers design I think
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2018
     
    gravelld asked: 'Are those just new build only or can they be used in a refurb? I couldn't find anything related to this at the above site'.

    A well-known brand for thermally broken lintels is Catnic - https://catnic.com/products/lintels/thermally-broken-lintels/overview - but when I searched I see that the company you mentioned also do them - https://iglintels.com/hi-therm-lintel/ I expect they would be better than the products you mentioned.

    As far as whether you can retrofit them, I would suggest asking their technical department. I can't immediately think of a reason why not, but then I'm not qualified.
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2018
     
    In the past Catnic had a design service where you provide the wall construction detail and the load type over the opening(plain wall, floor, roof etc) and they will specify a lintel for you. I assume they still offer that service and IG do the same. From the link you sent, IG go well beyond a 4.5 metre opening.

    The manufacturer will confirm, but the lintels you linked to are for masonary construction and so long as the detailing is corrrect, I cant see any reason why they shouldnt be used in retrofit as well as new build.
    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2018
     
    Thanks everyone, that's very clear.
    • CommentAuthorgoodevans
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2018 edited
     
    That is a big hole - what is above it - it makes a difference.

    Flat roof with joists running parallel to the hole - no problem, no load.

    Gable end with block/brick - doable with universal beams - may be able to have one beam for each skin. The load is the triangle of wall above the beam not supported by corbling - but an SE is req.

    Worst case is roof eaves or first floor joist supported just above the opening - in this case you have the roof dead load and the not insignificant snow loads etc or the first floor dead loads and live load.

    Until you/your engineer know the load you have to support there is no way to answer the question.
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