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  1.  
    I am looking to replace my 2002 Peugeot 406 Diesel estate with a car or a van - something less polluting, possibly petrol, but with as much load space (I can get 1800 x 900 boards in, and 2500 timbers or beads can run through on the passenger side into the seating area) as possible. I no longer seriously need the luxury of 5 seats, although it would still be good. Anyone got any recommendations? Thanks.
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2018
     
    Hi Nick,
    We went down the Toyota Hybrid route recently. The Auris estate version is performing very well. It has the hybrid drive train and an 1800cc petrol engine; I believe they have brought a 2000cc version out this year. If your'e an out and out speed freak you'll probably be disappointed. However, the boost button, (essentially an overdrive), for pulling away fast, at junctions etc., is a boon at times; and no road tax.
    As for your load carrying requirements I haven't measured but, I will.
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2018
     
    I gave up on a van last year after a string of known unreliablity faults with a 06 Astravan. I was looking for a Passat estate for DIY and mountain biking when I stumbled across the mk4 Mondeo. It gets good reveiws and is supposed to very reliable so Ive had one for the last 6 months:) Its quite a large car but that gives a massive load space when the estates seats are down.

    One thing to be concious of with a van is that all the insurance policies I came across do not cover for driving other vehicles. If you occaisionally need to use someone elses vehicle then that may be a problem unless you have a separate car policy in your name. Most car policies do provide cover for other vehicles.
  2.  
    Thanks both! I think my budget (don't know what it is yet!) probably precludes hybrids, but Passat and Mondeo are worth a look. I hadn't realised the van insurance thing till last week, when my colleague was having problems with his van, and I offered him the use of my car. He did not have the 'Any other vehicle...' bit. Interestingly some say 'car', some say 'vehicle'. My old Bradford and Pennine van policy used to say 'Any other car or motorcycle....' :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2018
     
    If you're considering a passsat, just check out the reliabilty as some models score quite badly which is why I went for the mondeo.
  3.  
    Thanks! After 2 very reliable Peugeots I could do with something which doesn't let the side down.

    After some years of diesels I am looking at petrol from the point of view of cutting down particulate emissions, but Ooooh!, the fuel consumption.
  4.  
    Posted By: philedgeMost car policies do provide cover for other vehicles

    Unless things have changed since I was reading the small print on UK car insurance the 'cover for any other vehicle' amounted for cover for the purposes of the road traffic act - which when I looked into it was less than the normal 3rd party and very minimal.
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2018
     
    Third party cover is all that Ive seen on offer, but without that you cant drive( or would be foolish to drive) someone elses car. Obviously if youre borrowing a Ferrari youd be brave to drive off with TP only but the point Im making with van insurance is that you dont get any cover for other vehicles.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2018
     
    That's right - it's the difference between taking a risk and breaking the law for sure.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2018 edited
     
    Posted By: owlmanboost button, (essentially an overdrive), for pulling away fast, at junctions etc
    Point Of Order - that's the opposite of overdrive, which is (was) an extra-high top gear for relaxed cruising once you'd got up to speed, no good for acceleration.

    In a hybrid, I wonder if that boost function is to make the IC engine and the electric motor provide power simultaneously, a feature used by the likes of Mclaren for stupendous acceleration? An opportunistic perversion of the original hybrid concept, squanders battery power that's been charged by burning fuel - but for occasional use ...?

    Like the new dual-fuel trains, electic + diesel, intended to ease the electrification transition, but which cabinet ministers grabbed as an opportunity to abandon electrification plans half-completed.
    • CommentAuthortychwarel
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2018
     
    A lot of car policies don't come with other vehicle cover now either, so don't let that decide van or car
  5.  
    E320 or 220 deisel estate 1999-2003 built like a tank , massive space in the rear.
    40-50 mpg
    £40k luxury car for £800 ish
    not that green though :-)
  6.  
    or just go for a high top long wheel based transit.
    run like a good car ,
    loads of space , no more bending down bashing your head crawling round looking for tools ,
    Could doubles as a camper /day van with some clever racking setup.
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2018
     
    Yes FT it is the combining of electric and petrol power, ( I was flippant with my terminology ).
    It's not to be sniffed at though, for safety it is a boon and there can't be many who buy hybrids and then drive them like stink; so it's not really a hybrid corruption, just a modern motoring necessity. With good overall MPG, I can fairly regularly get over 65; not bad for decent sized estate, it's occasional use can be forgiven
  7.  
    ''not that green though :-)''

    That's the thing. Apart from only having one functional door lock there's not too much reason to change my Peugeot, except the emissions.
    • CommentAuthorgravelld
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2018
     
    The Skoda Octavia and Superbs given the best loading area in their class (except for the massive Mercedes but assume that's not what you're after).
  8.  
    Not sure I could cope with the level of opulence offered by the Mercedes! Just having opening doors would be good!
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2018
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Nick Parsons</cite>''not that green though :-)''

    That's the thing. Apart from only having one functional door lock there's not too much reason to change my Peugeot, except the emissions.</blockquote>

    Unless youre gonna scrap the pug yourself, its going to stay in use with the attendant emissions, so it may as well be you using it. Get the door locks fixed and service the engine as well as you can???
  9.  
    Posted By: philedge
    Posted By: Nick Parsons''not that green though :-)''

    That's the thing. Apart from only having one functional door lock there's not too much reason to change my Peugeot, except the emissions.


    Unless youre gonna scrap the pug yourself, its going to stay in use with the attendant emissions, so it may as well be you using it. Get the door locks fixed and service the engine as well as you can???

    +1
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2018
     
    "Unless youre gonna scrap the pug yourself, its going to stay in use with the attendant emissions". Say it ain't so:

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/latest-2018-scrappage-scheme-deals/n15860

    Probably not directly relevant but gives an idea of emissions from vehicles of different ages:

    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2018/06/even-more-london-drivers-to-face-emissions-charges-from-2021/
    • CommentAuthordb8000
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2018
     
    Hi Nick
    I have a RAV4 which has a massive boot particularly with seats down (flat load too). The current range is coming up to 6 years old so early versions should be well priced.

    I can also happily fit 8x4 on the roof bars.

    I’ve had Toyotas for about a 12 years and theyve been reliable and cheap to service.

    The RAV4 does 60 mpg on the motorway and 45ish in town. Diesel cat6 engine.
    Cheers!
  10.  
    Thanks all. @db8000, I thought the Rav 4 was quite small. I obviously need to look again! Still looking towards petrol, I think, but have been a little scared after years of diesels with 50+ mpg.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2018
     
    It started small basic and crude, and crept or jumped upward over several versions - don't they all?
    • CommentAuthordb8000
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2018
     
    Old RAV4 small. The 2013 onwards model big. Toyota have replaced the small version with a new model C-HR or something like that.
    • CommentAuthorBeau
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2018
     
    Just been looking at cars for my dad. He bought a Skoda Fabia but also test drove a Yeti which had bags of very usable space. Nice and boxy which is ideal for bulky loads. Rear seats lift out very easily but didn't test flattening the passenger seat.
  11.  
    Looking at Skoda Octavias. Not as big as 406, I think, but beggars can't be choosers, and I used to have Astras and Escorts, so similar size to those I think. Please keep ideas coming, and thanks for all so far.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2018
     
    I have an Octavia hatchback. FWIW, it can take 8' board length inside, but not the width. Estate is presumably better. Mine is petrol and does 40-45 mpg depending on type of road.
    • CommentAuthorjamesingram
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2018 edited
     
    Posted By: Nick ParsonsNot sure I could cope with the level of opulence offered by the Mercedes! Just having opening doors would be good!


    It's "Because your worth it"

    I can cope with it, im getting too old and knackered not have that luxury leather interior :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2018
     
    As owner of a W-reg Merc ML320 (Range Rover type of thing - not suggesting it for what's sought here) caravan-tractor, 'opulence' is merely a bonus - incredible durability right into old age is the real benefit. Parts do cost a lot but are v rarely needed.
    • CommentAuthorGarethC
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2018
     
    We've just bought a Nissan Elgrand, partially because it's petrol, and I'd rather emit a bit more CO2 than a lot more particulates and NOx with an old diesel (can't afford a euro 6 diesel). More fun than a VW transporter and cheap (ours was just £5.5k with 55k on the clock), but only just got it so can't comment on reliability etc other than to say the reputation is good.
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