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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:46:34 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[How important is A142 mesh when screeding a hallway of just 75mm depth using traditional screed with fibres.<br /><br />16mm UFH pipe will be used<br /><br />And can it just sit on top of the PIR or does it have to be raised further?<br /><br />Also can each sheet be cable tied together or have I got to use wire ties? Or do they even need to be tied together?<br /><br />Many thanks]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:13:49 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>revor</author>
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			<![CDATA[Don't understand why you would need to put mesh in the screed. Screed with fibres is very strong provided the mix is correct. There are several types of "cement" that can be used. What is the base layer i.e. under the  PIR.<br />what is the floor covering going to be.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 21:21:45 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[ive used the mesh to tie the ufh  pipes to and raise them up off the insulation and get them surrounded in screed.<br />for that i think it a useful better way of doing it, but not essential.<br />i just cable tie them together and lay them on the screed with the uper mesh pointing the way it makes tying the pipes to easier]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 21:26:03 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[ðŸ‘. Will work ok no need to tie with wire]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:17:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[How do you keep the pattern of pipes in place then?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 16:08:44 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>revor</author>
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			<![CDATA[You can get clips that holds the pipes off the insulation if that is what you want to do. (Robbens do them) You say you are using traditional screed, it is necessary to pay a lot of attention to get the screed which is quite stiff to surround the pipe. You will need to walk it in by treading either side of the pipe. Tamping down and levelling a stiff screed is difficult enough without having mesh in the way. I think you will end up with lots of voids because you will not be able to get the screed to surround the pipe, the voids will affect the heat transfer properties of the floor in a negative way. I think you are making extra work for yourself by using mesh. It would be a different mater if it was liquid screed you were using.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 21:12:32 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[We have used the A142 mesh for this purpose before now and it was fine. It was straight on to the slab though (limecrete) and the screed was a bit runny (lime screed made with recycled crushed glass sharp sand)]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 21:13:51 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[Finished surface was blue brick pavers in one room and thick sandstone slabs in the other]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 21:19:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[We even halved the spacing in some places (down to 100mm) to get a bit more heat in some areas. I found that it gave more flexibility/choice in pipe runs. I think it was cheaper than using the â€œegg cratesâ€ and didnâ€™t use unnecessary plastic. Just a few cable ties. It was a bugger on the knees tying the pipes on though!<br />Insulation was under the slab.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 21:26:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[Also seemed a bit pointless covering the whole slab in a continuous plastic layer when it was supposed to be a breathing floor!]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:18:11 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: fostertom</cite>How do you keep the pattern of pipes in place then?</blockquote><br />cable ties]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:03:18 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Mike1</author>
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			<![CDATA[FWIW D49 is normally used for screed reinforcement, rather than the thicker A142. No problem using cable ties, or clipping the pipe to the insulation instead.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 15:59:31 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[Chicken wire any good?<br /><br />Found various links suggesting that too]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 19:33:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Jonti</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Victorianeco</cite>Chicken wire any good?<br /><br />Found various links suggesting that too</blockquote><br /><br />Yes, chicken wire works well.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:21:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Mike1</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Victorianeco</cite>Chicken wire any good?</blockquote><br />BS 8204 requires the use of either:<br />50mm square 16 gauge (1.2 mm) welded wire mesh,<br />D49 (2.5mm bars, normally used), or<br />A98 (5mm bars).<br /><br />Chicken wire can be as thin as 0.4mm, and isn't welded. It is sometimes used in DIY, but shouldn't be. It should provide some cracking resistance, but not much load distribution or curl resistance. However trying to keep it flat while attaching UFCH pipe to it might make an amusing YouTube video.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:12:37 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[I actually used a142 mesh in the end. Finished all the UFH pipes literally 15mins ago, all set for the screed Tuesday]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:54:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Jonti</author>
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			<![CDATA[Mike,<br /><br />I didn't use the chicken wire to strengthen the slab but to set the height of the UFH pipes by bending small pieces into  arches to support the piping whilst the slab was poured.]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:26:47 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Dominic Cooney</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Victorianeco</cite>I actually used a142 mesh in the end. Finished all the UFH pipes literally 15mins ago, all set for the screed Tuesday</blockquote><br /><br />Hope it goes well tomorrow with the screed. We still have to do that bit yet on this project. <br />Currently scratching my head about MVHR install and ducting routes, having taken a delivery from BPC Ventilation today.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:37:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[Screed delivered at 7.30am and all done.<br /><br />It's up to 100mm in places, how long till:<br /><br />1. We can walk on it?<br />2. Till we can run the UFH?<br />3. Till we can put finished floor down? (likely to be an LVT tile)]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 12:27:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>barney</author>
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			<![CDATA[1 day per mm<br /><br />Stay off it for at least a week<br /><br />What did the installers say when you asked them ?<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Barney]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 12:42:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[He said to lay a 4" insulation board from the dining room to bottom of stairs and will be fine to walk across this evening to get upstairs.<br /><br />But advised to not walk on direct for 2 days]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:22:05 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Mike1</author>
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			<![CDATA[1) I'd give it at least 48 hours, and a week before doing anything other than walking on it. It will take a month to achieve most of it's ultimate strength. Keep it moist for at least 1 week too, to aid curing - ideally cover it with plastic sheeting.<br /><br />2) As long as possible - the autumn would be good - and don't be tempted to use the UFCH to dry it out.<br /><br />3) That depends on the temperature and humidity; 1 day / mm is one rule of thumb, but basically leave it for as long as possible - it will continue to shrink slightly for some months.]]>
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