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    • CommentAuthorArtiglio
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2020
    A brief summary.

    My council uses an outside company for its emergency housing needs
    Said company is also a sort of developer
    Company buys a listed building
    Puts in planning and listed building consent application for 7 flats
    Things drag on no permissions granted but as soon as lockdown commences loads of work done and ongoing
    Then 3 weeks ago a refusal is issued and just about instantly a retrospective application put in for a completely different half completed scheme for a homelesss hostel , drug councilling centre, cab and associated services.
    Council will be the main user of the services.
    Site is directly opposite a primary school
    The area has been plagued by drug use, dealing and asb.
    This building has a upvc porch over which no action was taken
    Building next door also listed did have a upvc fromt door, then changed to a flush ply door again no listed building consents applied for.
    Seems pretty much a stitch up on local residents with lots of secretive deals being done and no real consultation.
    Interior of building has been trashed but excuse is it can be reinstated later.

    Council are choosing to continue with the application, conservation officer won’t comment.

    Where on earth do you start? Council has no interest in anything other than getting what they want. Blatant conflict of interest and collusion. Flagrant disregard of planning and listed building regulations.

    On bright side so far around 60 objections, fortunately someone spotted a new “yellow lable” had been put up. They printed and laminated their own notices to advise local residents these were missing next day.

    Area is a comservation area where people have jumped through multiple hoops doing up their homes and is one of the most deprived in the south east

    Any advice appreciated.
    • CommentAuthorgoodevans
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2020
    Artiglio, I think you may as well quote the council, and links to the planning applications. All of this is in the public domain so I see no problems in referencing it here. At least their will be something concrete to comment on.

    (I'd give it 24 hours before doing so others with proper authority on this site may disagree with my recommendation).
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    I agree with what Paul suggests. BTW, what is a 'yellow label'?

    It seems you may be able to take the matter up with the Local Government Ombudsman:


    or maybe RTPI's Planning Aid:

    • CommentAuthorArtiglio
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    • CommentAuthorgoodevans
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    On the face of it it looks like two refusals and two outstanding decisions. As far as I can see no work should be taking place on this site at present. Contact the "planning enforcement" team of the LA and get the work stopped or ensure it stays stopped until the planning process is complete. This should not be a difficult decision for the enforcement team.
    • CommentAuthorArtiglio
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    Should be straight forward but the work has effectively been commisioned by the local authority. Enforcement have been contacted (not by myself) and the matter is “being investigated”.
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    • CommentAuthorArtiglio
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2020
    Thanks djh, enough get out of jail free cards in that for nothing to be done. Hopefully the application will be refused due to the way it was done and the lack of local consultation and it’ll be resubmitted and followed through properly. The listed building status and the works done deserve some sort of sanction though no doubt the claim that its all reversible will mean nothing happens. Once in place the building will keep its role for some considerable time unless some magic funding appears for a better facility.

    Just makes a mockery of the way the planning dept/ council works. No wonder so many get away with so much.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2020
    If a planning department feels strongly enough about a breech they can get an injunction to stop the work. However I've been told this can get expensive and they are reluctant to spend the money.
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