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Posted By: borpin(Telegraph quote) the total amount of carbon emissions for which Britain is responsible is negligible compared with the likes of China ... UK voters could be asked to make sacrifices only for them to be rendered valueless by others’ failure to follow suitUK voters could recognise that a large part of China's emissions are actually attributable to them personally, so are UK's, but offshored by having all our stuff manufactured by and transported from China, as well as raw materials mined/sourced in or transported into China.
Posted By: borpintry to get my young adult kids to properly separate waste for recycling - hopelessWell, 'climate' measures on that level are what's been endlessly pushed at the older generation, and are the limit of what they'll undertake. Maybe the younger generation scornfully know that's just trivial boring band-aid; know full well that far more serious commitments are necessary.
Posted By: borpin"It is the poorest who suffer most when their older, diesel-fuelled cars are banned from entering their local town centres, on pain of Ă‚ÂŁ100-plus fines. It is the poorest who can least afford to replace their old gas boilers with new heat pumps. And it is the poorest who can least afford any tax hikes the chancellor might be persuaded to impose in order to pay for new anti-climate change measures."
Broadly, as suggested above, I think folk in the UK feel like the boy with his finger in the dyke when a Tsunami is rushing onward
Posted By: fostertomrubbishing IPPC6 via an old taking point the was well discredited in 2013To elaborate, the 'talking point' is the well known IPCC fact that atmospheric temp rise slowed from 2006. But that's not same as global temp rise, which has kept going up, but (since 2006) mainly input to deep cold ocean water, which is warming.
Posted By: djhI agree with all that, but I wouldn't expect anything different. It's not really news that poor people have more trouble paying for things than rich people is it? What was their point in publishing that?Because it increases inequalities; exactly the opposite of what many policies try to achieve. If you want it to work, you need to have policies that do not disadvantage the poor.
Posted By: fostertomThe climate crisis is not caused by vague “human actions”; nor is it a result of some innate aspect of human nature. It is caused by specific investments by specific people in specific things."Exactly, just like the HGV crisis, building tradesman crisis - they invested in the cheapest way and that is coming back to bite them. Fossil fuel was the cheapest way and there was no imperative not to use it.
Posted By: fostertom"Decades ago, fossil fuels improved lives compared alternative energy sources,What energy source, decades ago, wasn't fossil fuel?
Posted By: borpinWhat energy source, decades ago, wasn't fossil fuel?windmills, water mills, tide mills, horse mills, slaves, balmaids ...
Posted By: borpinBecause it increases inequalities; exactly the opposite of what many policies try to achieve. If you want it to work, you need to have policies that do not disadvantage the poor.
It is like the fact that the more energy you use, the cheaper per unit it becomes - it favours the rich who have less imperative to save or invest in PV etc. Utterly brainless. Energy should be priced like tax bands; the more you use the more you pay per unit.
Posted By: borpinHere is the nub of the problem, folk (including me) are not willing to instigate the radical change in lifestyle that is actually required. We are all quite happy in our Warm gas CH house, Diesel/petrol car, meat eating, electronics everywhere, foreign holiday, lives. Until it is forced on us, we will not change (and I reckon I'll be dead by then).
Posted By: fostertomwindmills, water mills, tide mills, horse mills, slaves, balmaids ...Obvious really :(
Posted By: djhWhy did you build your house then? And what would be the radical change in lifestyle involved in changing the heat source? Or changing your car for that matter (and yes, I know public charging is still atrocious but give it five or ten years ...)? etc.I built it as it was cost effective and I got what I wanted. The first house was built before the land price inflation so end value was way above build cost. Second time, I did invest in efficiency, but I will see some return on that.
Posted By: borpinGetting rid too early could possibly be worse for the environment than running it on.
Posted By: borpinHP change - lots of dosh I don't *have* to spend and can spend on other things (like foreign holidays).
Car - exactly - scarcity of charging plus as above, dosh I don't *have* to spend.
Posted By: revorPosted By: borpinGetting rid too early could possibly be worse for the environment than running it on.
Only if it is scrapped but someone somewhere could make use of it until it is on its last legs.
Posted By: DurPosted By: djh
So basically, you want to be compelled by legislation? You don't want to take responsibility. You'll do it if nanny tells you to?
Isn't it the reality that while lots of people might wish to "do their bit", the scale of what needs to be done and the timescale it has to be done in will mean there will have to be inducement whether by legislation or financial.
I have a large (company) estate car but I can leave 5 minutes earlier for work and drive at 55 on the dual carriageway. I save a significant amount of fuel and therefore carbon.
Posted By: revorOnly if it is scrapped but someone somewhere could make use of it until it is on its last legs.You might as well keep it then!
Posted By: djhSo basically, you want to be compelled by legislation? You don't want to take responsibility. You'll do it if nanny tells you to?I think the amount an individual or even 500 or 1000 individuals can do it minimal. Yes, I don't see that me spendng lots of money is going to make a blind bit of difference, but, as ever, YMMV.
Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryIf you sell on your (useable) car in order to buy an EV then that is +1 car on the planet.Yes my thoughts exactly (My 04 Discovery is still going strong)
Perhaps the best option might be to run your car until it is end of life, scrap it then buy the EV.
Posted By: djhAgreed. I'm just surprised that a GBF member apparently doesn't want to do their bit.Bit harsh and uncalled for IMHO (but not unsurprising).
Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryPosted By: Peter_in_HungaryIf you sell on your (useable) car in order to buy an EV then that is +1 car on the planet.Yes my thoughts exactly (My 04 Discovery is still going strong)
Perhaps the best option might be to run your car until it is end of life, scrap it then buy the EV.
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