Fri, 10 Jul 2026 01:26:36 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294860#Comment_294860 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294860#Comment_294860 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:31:42 +0000 Rex
When I built the house, I used Nu Lok (https://nulokroofing.com/uk/) tiles and am very pleased with them. however, NuLok do not have a very good verge solution so had to 'fabricate something.

Used the L shaped metal edging that is usually used as the verge for corrugated roofing. It laps over the tiles by around 120mm and has a vertical drop of a similar measurement. It is not actively 'fixed to the tiles, only nailed to the vertical timber of the roof edge. it has sufficient tile coverage to prevent any water ingress, but as it is not stepped to match the tiles, the wind and dust / leaves can enter.

All been good for ten years until today's storm, when one edge had 'vibrated' the nails out and is dangling, as the photo.

Obviously, I will have to repair. But my question: is there an alternative product that is possible to 'step' to match the steps of the tiles and so give a better seal on the top surface?

Don't really think lead is a goer, but it may be?

As an aside, the facia is uPVC and needs it annual wipe down!

Thanks]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294861#Comment_294861 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294861#Comment_294861 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 15:10:02 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294863#Comment_294863 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294863#Comment_294863 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:30:16 +0000 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294864#Comment_294864 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294864#Comment_294864 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:16:43 +0000 Rex
Only challenging part is that I would like them black!

It may be that lead would be a better bet. Comes in long lengths and can be hammered to make a snug fit over the tile step.

The other issue is that we have two mono-pitch roofs and the verge on the other side was rattling with the wind. Would not take much for this to come off. This one and the other are the leeward side of the house,, the windward side is OK, but it woulb nice if, whatever I do to restore, all verges match.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294866#Comment_294866 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294866#Comment_294866 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:25:07 +0000 djh Posted By: fostertomWhy not soakers, usually lead but could be any roofing metal, or short lengths of PVC L-sectionSoakers seem to be designed to solve the opposite problem?

https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/browse/pitched-roofing/soakers.html]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294867#Comment_294867 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294867#Comment_294867 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:56:29 +0000 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294869#Comment_294869 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294869#Comment_294869 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:02:24 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294986#Comment_294986 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294986#Comment_294986 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:17:45 +0000 Rex
When I built the house (15 years ago), I bought the verge trim from SigRoofing (it is Kami Verge Trim 3) and today, it is not longer available in the UK. I have been in contact with the Swedish manufacturer and I can still obtain it, with a very high transport cost, but may be insurance will pay?

This trim is intended for corrugated roofing, and should be screwed on the vertical and top surfaces. That is not possible with my tiles and I doubt that it is possible to drill through the tile and into the batten below.

So the problem is, how to 'lock' the trim to the tile so that is cannot lift if/when the wind gets under it. I have been playing with bent ali or brass to slide under the tile and just catch the trim edge. Works in principle but it does not stay 'locked' under the tile and then falls away.

The tiles are NuLok (https://nulokroofing.com/uk/) and each tile is around 9mm thick, sitting above the tile with a 1-2 mm gap.

So I am wondering if the great and good on this forum have any ideas/thoughts that are simple to implement?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294987#Comment_294987 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294987#Comment_294987 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:57:11 +0000 borpin
I'd go and take a picture, but it is covered in snow!

Pretty sure it is this, I remember it being white inside (the Slate Trim (Type 2))

https://www.lbsproducts.com/roofing-accessories/dry-fix-roofing-accessories/verge-systems]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294988#Comment_294988 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294988#Comment_294988 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:06:02 +0000 borpin https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294989#Comment_294989 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294989#Comment_294989 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:06:33 +0000 borpin https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294990#Comment_294990 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294990#Comment_294990 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:10:02 +0000 borpin
Have to say I was extremely happy with this finish.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294991#Comment_294991 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294991#Comment_294991 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:39:38 +0000 fostertom Posted By: RexNot sure that soakers are the way to go as the current verge trim is around 2 m long.Soakers can handle any length of verge - one soaker per tile.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294996#Comment_294996 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=294996#Comment_294996 Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:38:31 +0000 tony
First time I have seen metal battens!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295000#Comment_295000 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295000#Comment_295000 Fri, 25 Feb 2022 07:40:06 +0000 borpin Posted By: tonyEdge batten will get wet and possible noise from the verge trim too

First time I have seen metal battens!Been on now for 10 years and absolutely no bother.

Beats the old verge & cement and individual tile edges hands down!

I don't have a close up of the finished roof at that area.

The system is really good, just never totally took off. I'd certainly use it again and having looked at their website, might go for the Solar tiles.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295031#Comment_295031 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295031#Comment_295031 Tue, 01 Mar 2022 17:26:45 +0000 Rex
Apart from the ease of installation, there were two reasons that I went for them. We collect rainwater in a 6k underground tank. I wanted as close to 100% run off as possible. The other reason was that most tiles have quite a lot of grit that washes off over time. Again, I did not want to collect grit.

As another minor plus, it is a 10 second job to remove any tile and about the same to replace it.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295570#Comment_295570 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17394&Focus=295570#Comment_295570 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:47:05 +0100 Rex
To summarise, the verge trim (Kami verge 3) is (was) held on by ring shank nails into the end grain of the battens on the vertical side. The wind got under the top side and caused the entire length to flutter until it came off. I now have a solution to prevent this happening again; custom bent Z clips that will slide under the tile and be riveted to the topside leading edge. Would love to do it myself, but height and access is the issue.

Unlike the Nu-Lok in Borpin's photos, my steel batten is fixed to timber battens and the trim was nailed (3mm X 60) into the end grain.

I now plan on the to replace with screws and some black caps to hide the head. But what screws? Presumably, pre-drilling is best? What about self tapping into the end grain?

Thinking of one of these types but uncertain what is best:

https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/products/timco-5-5-x-50mm-countersunk-self-drill-screws-timber-to-steel-1-2-3-0mm-bright-zinc-plated-no3-phillips-drive

https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-countersunk-head-self-tapping-screws-6ga-x-1-100-pack/9497p

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264335311938?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818143230%26meid%3D54fa63fdb65e4847ba902149d974a3cb%26pid%3D101224%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D112160016994%26itm%3D264335311938%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWeb%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c101224.m-1

One roofer, who was not interested and is a real cowboy told me, just screw into the end grains, no worries mate! My feeling is that doing so will split the batten but testing on some scrap, that is not happening.

Grateful for your thoughts on screw types and if there is a bette alternative.

Thanks and toodle pip]]>