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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2024
     
    Tackling Downlighter Draughts: A Simple Solution

    Tony recently found himself frustrated with downlighters when asked to help change a lightbulb at a friend’s house while collecting some tools for the library of things. As he removed the old bulb he was shocked at the draft that was coming out from the ceiling. It was almost like having a window open and it was just one of 16 downlights in that room.

    It’s not difficult to draftproof downlighters if you do it before they are installed because it is possible to provide a box or enclosure to house them in. Sadly there is little or no possibility of doing that once they have been installed. In the past, with incandescent bulbs, downlights required careful handling due to the heat they generated. However, the advent of LED luminaries has made it easier to fit boxing over them without risking overheating.

    Link https://readinguk.org/draughtbusters/tackling-downlighter-draughts-a-simple-solution/
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    Of course it ignores the build quality as to why there should be a gale coming from the downlighters anyway - and with that how much heat is being lost without knowledge if it were not for the downlighters.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2024
     
    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryOf course it ignores the build quality as to why there should be a gale coming from the downlighters anyway - and with that how much heat is being lost without knowledge if it were not for the downlighters.
    In a bungalow it's because they are fitted in a well-ventilated loft. In a house it's a good illustration of the need to keep airtightness continuous between floors - i.e joists poked into holes in the exterior wall don't cut it any longer! :cry:

    I think I'd prefer to see an airtight box fitted over the top of the downlight. Easy enough in a bungalow but a bit more faff downstairs in a house.
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2024 edited
     
    "Sadly there is little or no possibility of doing that once they have been installed"

    Go loft side and fit a fire hood. If you can't access loft side, pull the fitting out of the ceiling and seal it up or replace with a fire or IP rated one that is already sealed up by design
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    Fire rated downlights don't have that issue of course - being sealed at the rear.

    https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/fire-rated-downlights.html
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2024
     
    And double check whether there is insulation above (either thermal in a loft or acoustic above ground floor ceiling) and buy an appropriately rated fire-rated downlight if so.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2024
     
    I could accept that the fitting itself is draughtproof but can see draughts coming in between the plasterboard and the bezel. I see that a lot already, it is not such a bad draught but none the lees it is a draught.
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    Posted By: tonyI could accept that the fitting itself is draughtproof but can see draughts coming in between the plasterboard and the bezel. I see that a lot already, it is not such a bad draught but none the lees it is a draught.


    The ones I've seen do seem to have a rubber/silincon ring seal on the back of the bezel.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2024
     
    That is good but do those make them draughtproof?
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2024 edited
     
    Depends on the power of the springs holding it up. Using flex rather than single core cable might help too, but if the fittings are anticipated to move, spray foam em in from the loft side..
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