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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2024 edited
     
    This is a dumb question, after all these years. We here think a lot about wall 'sandwich' build-up details, model them in WUFI etc, for interstitial condensation risk, air tightness etc. And lately, for example, I've found insulation suppliers such as Warmcel refusing to authorise their distributors to supply their product unless it's being done to a certified detail/design. Strangely, I can find nothing in Building Regs that makes similar requirement - which Part is about this, if not C (ground/rain) moisture, F vent/condensation, L thermal? No search term I can think of, produces refs to such details, tho I know manufacturers publish sample construction details, get BBA Certificates etc, on use of their product. So, question is, what different kinds of sources are there, for such detail/designs that can be used as evidence of approvability, if not certifiability?
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    There were accredited construction details 'attached' to Part L, but these were effectively 'discontinued' in 2022, at least as an alternative to entering known psi values in full SAP. ACDs were also a way, in refurb, of proving that you had taken air-tightness seriously.

    https://www.planningportal.co.uk/applications/building-control-applications/building-control/approved-documents/part-l-conservation-of-fuel-and-power/accredited-construction-details
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2024
     
    Posted By: fostertomsuppliers such as Warmcel refusing to authorise their distributors to supply their product unless it's being done to a certified detail/design.
    Maybe due to their insurance provider insisting on it?

    Posted By: fostertomwhat different kinds of sources are there, for such detail/designs that can be used as evidence of approvability, if not certifiability?
    Good question...
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2024
     
    Posted By: fostertomI've found insulation suppliers such as Warmcel refusing to authorise their distributors to supply their product unless it's being done to a certified detail/design.
    Have you asked them? Why and what certified standard? AFAIK, Warmcel don't have distributors as such, they just have installers. That's to do with making sure enough product is installed to prevent slumping, I believe. They need to know the exact volume of the space they'll be filling, so they do need a detailed plan.
    • CommentAuthorsgt_woulds
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2024
     
    Possibly an issue with fire regs.

    Since Grenfell, it has become increasingly difficult to specify timber frame projects using generic detailing.

    Changes proposed push towards using details (and materials) exactly as specified in fire testing. Essentially this means every combination of materials needs to be tested and the specifications followed otherwise you won't get sign-off and insurance.

    i.e. you can't substitute one manufacturer's fire-rated plasterboard for another manufacturer's fire-rated board, even if it has the same - or better - properties unless that exact combination of materials has also been tested.

    Utter madness, but 'Rectum Protectum' is the order of the day.

    The company I work for has just released an updated STA Fire-in-use pattern book for our structural products after extensive, (expensive) testing - we've essentially been told it is worthless unless followed to the letter...
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