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		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[Fans, skirting radiators, radiators plastered into the walls, ...]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:49:06 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[How do you plaster a radiator into a wall??<br /><br />What about kitchen plinth heaters or even a heater into the MVHR?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:51:58 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>WillInAberdeen</author>
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			<![CDATA[Check/challenge the MCS assumptions about as air change rates and insulation and room temperature. <br /><br />Eg if you call it a 'living room', MCS uses different values from if you call it a 'family room'. MCS assumes underfloor insulation will be thin. Etc <br /><br />If you still genuinely need more radiators area, then look at double panel and triple panel radiators. <br /><br />Look at tall vertical radiators but be careful the fancy designer ones have a wide range of outputs, some are more decorative than practical.<br /><br />Fan-coil radiators were all a bit utilitarian last time I looked at them, maybe noisy, might be ok depending which room it is. Maybe they've moved on I don't know.<br /><br />We were suggested to look at fan connectors that go in the kickspace under the units in kitchen/utility.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:20:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[Victorianeco asked: "How do you plaster a radiator into a wall??"<br /><br /><a href="https://www.thermo-floor.co.uk/wall-heating-modular-systems.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">https://www.thermo-floor.co.uk/wall-heating-modular-systems.html</a><br /><a href="https://www.boilerguide.co.uk/heating/wall-system" target="_self" rel="nofollow">https://www.boilerguide.co.uk/heating/wall-system</a><br /><br />and also: "What about kitchen plinth heaters or even a heater into the MVHR?"<br /><br />kitchen plinth heaters are a form of fan heater. By a "heater into the MVHR" you presumably mean a post-heater. I have one (a VEAB) and it works well. Be aware there are fairly low limits to the output power since air temperature needs to be limited to 50°C. Mine limits at about 1.2 kW, which is generally enough in my house.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:24:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[Some good reading there djh. I guess it would be easy to DIY a wall system, same principles of using 16mm pipe on the wall, baton and throw a screed mix onto the wall then board with PB and skim... A simple TRV or stat could be used to control the flow. Would be able to get 100mm spacing very easily.<br /><br />However, we have compromised on a radiator location with her indoors that should work.<br /><br />Combined with my calcs. I think we'll be alright with the radiator size as opposed to teh size the MCS guy has suggested. Who wants to maintain 21c at -2c anyway. That's where an electric heater could be used to top up on the rare occasion. Using whole house heating method the radiators in the other rooms will compensate for sure anyway]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2024 08:47:58 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Peter_in_Hungary</author>
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			<![CDATA[I would always be nervous with wall heating because some years down the line someone will hang a picture or put up a shelf..........]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2024 16:50:14 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[Any recommended suppliers of column radiators?]]>
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