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    Hi

    We're looking to have a new wood stove installed and have narrowed it down to a Dik Geurts Ivar 5. It's a good size and shape for where we'll be putting it, we like the aesthetic, and it seems to get great reviews on the whole.

    I wondered if anyone here has one and could share their experiences if so? Or if anyone is familiar with it and has an opinion, good or bad, regarding that particular stove.

    More wood stove questions may follow over the next few days!

    Many thanks
    • CommentAuthorrevor
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2025
     
    I have never heard of it but of interest did look it up and note it meets the current regulations. One feature which is good to have is that it has an inlet for external air supply. Make use of this if you can it avoids using your nicely warmed house air for combustion.
    • CommentAuthorsgt_woulds
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2025
     
    Have you lived in a house with an iron stove before?

    Having lived with iron stoves and masonry stoves, I'd definitely be looking for something with more storage and radiative heat if I were to do it again.

    The comfort, improved air quality and lower running cost of a stone or masonry stove - even a hybrid Iron/stone stove - is definitely worth the premium.

    Unfortunately even the cheapest soapstone stove will probably cost about double the price of this Dik Geurts Ivar 5 in the UK...
    • CommentAuthorHollyBush
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2025
     
    Whilst I don't have this stove, I did think long and hard about which hand I would use to open and load the stove with.
    I am right handed and glad I went with one that has the handle on the right and hinges on the left, so when opening I can use my right hand to do stuff, whilst the left is holding the door.
    You may be left handed or happy with the handle for other reasons, just think about it, is what I'm saying.

    Other thought is a curved glass window is much more expensive to replace than flat glass (maybe 8 or 10x), so looks OK for that.

    Agree with the other thoughts - we had external supply, but couldn't actually find a fitter prepared to install it - insisted on a hole in the wall. Which is annoying, but not the end of the world - we block it up when not in use.
    • CommentAuthorfinny
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2025
     
    I’ve installed one once for a customer. Only issue they had was the firebox dimensions.
    Wide and shallow made making a proper fire tricky. It’s a common issue tho with modern stoves..
    bigger flame picture yet low rated output.
  2.  
    Many thanks for your helpful answers, some of which I'll reply to here...

    - Direct Air. That's pretty much top of my list for researching. However, I won't say any more on it now as I might do a separate thread for that... Thanks for bringing it up though.

    - @sgt_woulds - The stove is predominantly steel but I' guessing the same applies? I've not experienced a masonry stove (or soapstone etc), except for once briefly in someone else's house. I really like the idea of them. For this stove though there wouldn't be enough space for it, but we may be getting another at the other end of the house, so I'll be considering it for that one when the time comes. Space requirements and price aside, the only other thing that puts me off is the need to keep it ticking over (maybe?) and the lack of a more instant heat. Our house and the way we live is as such that I might be in that room for a few days, then not in in for a few days, etc.

    - Left/Right issue. Good point and thanks for highlighting it. I think I would find the same as you to be the easiest, at least in theory. In practise though, our existing stove has the handle on the left and I've never found it a problem, so I don't think that's a deal breaker.

    - @finny. That's interesting. I thought the firebox was larger than normal, based on others I've seen in stove shops, especially for a 5kW nom. output. At 380mm wide and 270mm deep do you or anyone else consider that small or shallow?

    Thanks again
  3.  
    Posted By: greenfingerI've not experienced a masonry stove (or soapstone etc), except for once briefly in someone else's house. I really like the idea of them. For this stove though there wouldn't be enough space for it, but we may be getting another at the other end of the house, so I'll be considering it for that one when the time comes. Space requirements and price aside, the only other thing that puts me off is the need to keep it ticking over (maybe?) and the lack of a more instant heat. Our house and the way we live is as such that I might be in that room for a few days, then not in in for a few days, etc.

    I have had a number masonry stoves over the years, all installed over 20 years ago and only 3 surviving, the others being discontinued due to the arrival of CH and accompanying life style changes.

    The cost of a new masonry stove is eye watering, second hand ones are almost as expensive as new 'cos you have to pay for then to be taken apart properly, usually by the installer otherwise the fire bricks internally can be damaged beyond use plus some replacements are always needed. (over here you can get second hand ones for about 25 quid - buyer removes! antique ones can be pricy tho.).

    Instant heat doesn't happen with masonry stoves, ours you light and feed wood and start getting warmth 2 -3 hours later, you feed them wood for 3-4 hours then after which, when there are embers only you shut them up. When we do that in the evening they are still warm the following morning. Tests have shown that good ones have about a 90% efficiency.

    They are v. expensive but good in the right place and are a life style choice.
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