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    I have 2 single storey terraced bed sits (each with kitchen/diner, shower room and bedroom) with a pitched roof to be rental properties. I am thinking to put in a MVHR unit in each to help with ventilation and hopefully to stop any mould issues on the walls. (limestone and rubble walls with no DPC) The eaves are about 3M high. The referb. will include UPVC windows, EWI and 30cm glass wool loft insulation.

    Would it be reasonable to route the MVHR intake and exhaust under the eaves out to gutter level (about 60cm from the wall). I can get about 3M separation.

    I plan to put a humidity stat to automatically switch the MVHR to boost. What RH should trigger the Boost?

    Humidity stat to be located in the shower room unless the team think somewhere else would be better.

    I plan to use the MVHR as the (windowless) shower/loo room vent with a switch to boost when the light is turned on. Bad idea or OK ??

    The kitchen area will have a recirculating cooker hood which the tenants may or may not use. How far away should the extract be from the cooking area to avoid too much contamination of the MVHR filters.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2025 edited
     
    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryWould it be reasonable to route the MVHR intake and exhaust under the eaves out to gutter level (about 60cm from the wall). I can get about 3M separation.
    Sounds fairly sensible, as long as they're not being dripped on etc.

    I plan to put a humidity stat to automatically switch the MVHR to boost. What RH should trigger the Boost?
    Make it adjustable (by you, not the tenant) in case of problems, but I'd suggest 60% as a starting point.

    I plan to use the MVHR as the (windowless) shower/loo room vent with a switch to boost when the light is turned on. Bad idea or OK ??
    Depends entirely on where the vents are. Cross draughts when wet are uncomfortable. I turn the MVHR DOWN rather than UP when I shower! Then I turn it up afterwards. But that's a relatively responsible me; dunno what the best plan is for an unknown tenant, apart from careful placement of the inlet (door undercut?) and extract terminal.

    The kitchen area will have a recirculating cooker hood which the tenants may or may not use. How far away should the extract be from the cooking area to avoid too much contamination of the MVHR filters.
    Ours is about 3-4 m away but still gets more dirt than all the other terminals. I fitted an extract terminal with a filter (looks like this https://www.paulheatrecovery.co.uk/product/v125-fb-filtered-kitchen-extract-terminal/ but was a lot cheaper IIRC). Both that and the MVHR filters need to be cleaned/exchanged regularly - we do it every 3 months.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2025 edited
     
    Sounds like a good plan.

    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryWould it be reasonable to route the MVHR intake and exhaust under the eaves out to gutter level (about 60cm from the wall). I can get about 3M separation.
    Sounds OK, provided they're both on the same elevation.

    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryI plan to put a humidity stat to automatically switch the MVHR to boost. What RH should trigger the Boost?
    Ideally you'd switch to boost if the RH rises by a few % over the course of a few minutes, rather than at a set percentage. That could be measured in the duct or the MVHR unit (where it could also take into account steam from cooking); it doesn't have to be in the bathroom. I also remember seeing that someone put a flow meter on the hot water pipe to trigger boost after a couple of minutes of constant flow. Either is likely to require some software to monitor the sensors. I've not decided which I'll use on my current project, though I'll have both sensors anyway.

    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryI plan to use the MVHR as the (windowless) shower/loo room vent with a switch to boost when the light is turned on. Bad idea or OK ??
    Well it wouldn't be necessary every time. I plan to fit a manual boost button & leave it up to the occupant's nose.

    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryThe kitchen area will have a recirculating cooker hood which the tenants may or may not use. How far away should the extract be from the cooking area to avoid too much contamination of the MVHR filters.
    A couple of metres or so if you have space, and make sure that it (and preferably all other extracts) has a filter at the valve. Note too that, if you look deep enough in the cooker hood specs, you should find their grease filter efficiency rating (a bit like the Energy Rating) to indicate how much good it's going to do - many are surprisingly bad.
    • CommentAuthorGareth J
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2025 edited
     
    I've just fitted a greenbrook/zehnder CA155 which does exactly what you are looking for out of the box. Initially I was a little annoyed the fan overrun and boost humidity trigger points were not user specified but controlled in a "smart" way. But after 6months or so, whatever settings the system is using are fine.

    I expect a lot of other brands/models will have similar features. The one here isn't especially bells and whistles.
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