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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2025 edited
     
    What about "carbon emissions fell, except for buildings emissions ... Are we practitioners proud of ourselves, or is it someone else's fault?"
    • CommentAuthorsgt_woulds
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025
     
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025
     
    Are our emissions from Drax counted in the total, or are they ascribed to Canada or somewhere?
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025
     
    NESO say that sustainable renewables(wind, solar, hydro) accounted for 37% of generation with biomass adding another 7% if you want to include our likely unsustainable deforestation of other countries! Nuclear did another 14%
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025
     
    So there's some discrepancy for renewables 37+7=44% versus 50.8% but those are both generation estimates rather than the emissions Tom was referring to.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025 edited
     
    Hmm at https://www.neso.energy/about/our-progress-towards-net-zero/road-zero-carbon-numbers NESO say "51% Proportion of zero carbon generation in 2024" so something doesn't add up with the reported figures. NESO's site seems poorly organized. There's no way to click through the 51% to get any further detail, for example. And a search for zero carbon generation shows 0 results ! :cry:

    edit to add: https://www.neso.energy/news/britains-electricity-explained-2024-review says: "Wind was the largest source of electricity generation in 2024 for the first year ever, accounting for 30%. Renewables generated more than 50% of our electricity for four consecutive quarters (Q4 2023 – Q3 2024) for the first time, averaging 51% during 2024." So it's not clear whether the mention of Q4 2023 was just thrown in for random luck, or is somehow incorporated in other figures? They don't say whether nuclear counts as renewable, in their opinion, or biomass, and what proportion of imports and storage they counted. And again, there's no link to further information.

    edit again: Of course Tom is talking about overall emissions, not just for energy generation, so there's a lot of cross purposes going on here.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025 edited
     
    The French numbers for 2024 are out today - a fall of 1.8%, which isn't enough to meet the decarbonisation targets (they'd fallen 5.8% in 2023). Housing (-1.1%) and transport (-0.7%) are singled out as the biggest problem areas. Steps to tackle both are expected on Monday, after a meeting of the Ecological Council.

    For housing, there was a 40% fall in energy-efficiency renovations, fewer heat pumps installed and a small rise in oil & gas heating boilers, now hit with 20% VAT from this month (new-build gas boilers were banned a few years ago). Seems that the fall in energy prices is taking part of the blame.

    More, in French, at https://mesinfos.fr/decarbonation-pourquoi-ca-ralentit-en-france-219430.html

    Posted By: fostertomWhat about "carbon emissions fell, except for buildings emissions ... Are we practitioners proud of ourselves, or is it someone else's fault?"
    I may have missed it, but I've not seen any news of the UK Government doing anything urgently about it, like in France? So I guess it's not their fault?
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    Think people are mixing up "generation" with "consumption" (which includes imports) (imports are now mostly renewable or nuclear)

    2024 electricity consumption figs from Electric Insights who get them from NESO and adjust for distributed generation:

    Coal. 0.54%
    Gas 26.02%
    Solar 5.03%
    Wind 30.15%
    Hydro 1.31%
    Pumped Storage 0.17%
    Imports & Exports 14.31%
    Biomass 8.14%
    Nuclear 14.34%

    If we knock off imports, then (solar+wind+hydro+biomass) comes to just over half the UK-generated power.

    Grid carbon intensity by these numbers was 119g/kWh. If youve done nothing but sit on your sofa in an electric heated house since 1990 then you have reduced your emissions by 80%. Don't get up yet, will be 90% by the end of the decade.

    If like us you have spent a fortune on insulation, you get to much the same result, a little quicker, less the emissions of cement/steel/glass/haulage used.

    Best way to decarbonise buildings is simply to electrify them.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2025 edited
     
    Posted By: WillInAberdeenBest way to decarbonise buildings is simply to electrify them
    Increasingly so. For a start - then comes the harder bit, because the only 'aspiration' that can save us is Nett Gain (not just Reduced Loss).
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    Posted By: WillInAberdeenrid carbon intensity by these numbers was 119g/kWh. If youve done nothing but sit on your sofa in an electric heated house since 1990 then you have reduced your emissions by 80%. Don't get up yet, will be 90% by the end of the decade.

    If like us you have spent a fortune on insulation, you get to much the same result,

    Except your electric bill will be (a lot?) less

    Any idea of the ROI you could expect?
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2025 edited
     
    <blockquote>Any idea of the ROI you could expect?</blockquote>

    Not forgetting that the ROI needs to include all the benefits to future generations
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    Our financial ROI has varied ofc, depending on which insulation, which energy price, who did it, etc. For example:

    We started with subsided DIY loft roll over ceilings that had none, the payback was probably in weeks or months

    Later we borrowed £10k for a conc floor to be broken out and relaid over thick polystyrene. Lovely job, comfy toes, but energy cost savings didn't cover the loan repayments. We unexpectedly had to move out a couple of years later, it added nothing to the sale price so we lost the whole amount.


    In terms of 'environmental ROI', we did work back when there were carbon savings to be made, probably that floor has paid back its carbon debt by now. As electric heating is now much lower carbon, it probably wouldn't pay back carbon to do the same job now.
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    *subsidised loft roll. Can't edit anymore.
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    * we hadn't expected to get a financial ROI from our floor, so no complaints...!
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    There's the financial ROI and the carbon ROI, most look at the financial ROI as part of the decision making process with the carbon ROI most of the time ignored.

    I'M not sure about either ROI on my EV over my 30 year old Land Rover which I still have which is now kept only for dirty heavy work. I guess that becomes clearer down the line when resale values and life span become more apparent.

    Absolutely no point in discussing the ROI with SWMBO for her new kitchen.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2025
     
    Anyone got any numbers on buildings total energy use?
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    This document from DESNZ has a new set of figures for typical domestic energy use by Quarter:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67e3eae39c9de963bc39b482/consumption-level-review-march-2025-methodology.pdf

    "Since 2020 bills have been presented with fixed annual consumption levels of:
    • 13,600kWh for Gas
    • 3,600kWh for Standard Electricity, and
    • 5,100kWh for Economy 7 (or time of use tariffs) Electricity

    These levels provide an estimate of the average consumption across all UK households by taking the total consumption in the country and apportioning it to the number of households (by fuel).
    This differs from Ofgem’s Typical Domestic Consumption Values (TDCVs) which provide the annual gas and electricity usage of a ‘typical’ domestic consumer, expressed as the median consumption value.

    Providing bills based on a fixed mean consumption over time allows users to observe the impact of the change in price independent of changes in consumption arising from factors such as weather conditions, changes in energy efficiency and householder behaviour."

    "New consumption levels were proposed in the December 2024 Quarterly Energy Prices release. No objections to these proposed levels were received, therefore from the March 2025 QEP, bills tables5 were presented for the first time using the revised fixed mean consumption levels of:

    • 11,200 kWh for Gas
    • 3,400 kWh for Standard Electricity, and
    • 4,800 kWh for Economy 7 Electricity
    These figures were used in the estimated final bills for 2024 along with a revised, consistent time series back to 2022."
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