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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2026 10:39:24 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: WillInAberdeen</cite>It's no different from if you have 16 panels and a bunch of microinverters on your roof, if the mains goes off they all trip.</blockquote>When we installed ours there was a length of SMA coming down from the roof and lying in a coil for a while. The installer said I could put the end of the cable in my mouth and be quite safe. I was never that brave but I did check the voltage on the end of the cable - nothing.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2026 15:59:30 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>WillInAberdeen</author>
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			<![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt;AIUI standard domestic UK MCBs / RCBOs only cut the live pole of a circuit. In Europe (or at least France) they cut live and neutral to provide full circuit isolation<br /><br />Interesting comment, prompted weekend reading!  (Sorry this is off topic:)<br /><br />France, Germany, UK and most of the world all use the same MCBs, designed to IEC60898.<br /><br />In France they will be labelled NF EN 60898, in UK they are BS EN 60898, in Germany DIN EN 60898, so on. But same device.<br /><br /><br />Like light switches, you can get multiples of the same MCB stuck together to give single pole, double pole, single pole +neutral, 3-pole, so on.<br /><br />France apparently likes to use 1p+n for domestic MCBs where Germany and UK just trip L and leave N connected. There are good historical reasons for both setups. In some places eg UK hospitals we disconnect both L+N.<br /><br />Similarly RCBs/RCBOs are 1p+n in France, but elsewhere they can be either kind : leave the neutral connected, or disconnect both L+N. The ones in my house disconnect both L+N.<br /><br /><br /><br />Unlike the mains, plug-in solar microinverters don't have one connection grounded to Earth so they don't really have a L or N connection polarity as such, either connector could be L or N. Their Schuko plugs can safely be plugged in either way round in countries with reversible sockets.<br /><br />You can disconnect the inverter on either the live and/or the neutral side and the inverter will stop, as unlike the mains it cannot circulate current through Earth, or through somebody standing on Earth.]]>
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