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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 20:55:02 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[Up to date solar recommendations? <br /><br />Any grants available? <br />Preferred kit setup and size? <br />Export tariffs available? <br /><br />I have little knowledge on the subject and we're a few weeks away from scaffold going up for the re-roof currently looking at cladco corrugated profiles and greencoat roofing systems but may be swayed by standard slate or tiles, but 100% confirmed either way. <br /><br />But would like to start getting a few solar quotes together but looking at specs. to ensure I'll be comparing apples with apples in the quotes. <br /><br />We have a cross gable roof with one elevation facing true south and the other roof section is half east and half west.<br /><br />Let me know your thoughts on what the ideal setup is these days]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 21:30:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>philedge</author>
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			<![CDATA[There's a big solar and battery show at the NEC towards the end of September and you'll get state of the art info there. If you need info bespoke to you sooner, then speak to a local installer or two....there's alot to consider!]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:11:30 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[IME solar installers are an utter rip off. The money and markup they are making is utterly scandalous. I had a local firm in a while back for a quote. I worked out their labour charge was effectively £2K a day per person. Probably 50% margin overall.<br /><br />I've looked at the numbers several times and I just cannot justify the capital outlay. Folk say 'oh look at my low electric bill' but fail to take capital cost and depreciation into account (and don't bother throwing out the 'kitchen' analogy at me as I just don't buy it).<br /><br />The only things that might sway the figures is high mileage EV and HP. I'm looking at a small EV for local use but even then, usually, I'd still be better off on Agile.<br /><br />The Plugin Solar does interest me to cover my baseload during the day.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:14:36 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[If I could make the numbers work, I'd go for in-roof panels and micro inverters. For battery, a UPS type system would be a must. Any larger EV would have to have Load To Grid capability.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:29:06 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Peter_in_Hungary</author>
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			<![CDATA[Micro inverters are mounted with the panels, which means on the roof. Typically inverters have a (much) shorter life than the panels. If the inverters are placed with the panels consider the problems of accessibility when replacing a failed inverter. Guarantees usually cover the cost of the item and doesn't usually include any associated costs e.g. scaffolding.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:31:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: borpin</cite>The money and markup they are making is utterly scandalous</blockquote>That is depressing news. By now it should be a mature market with plenty of competition, making modest margins out of efficient operation. What factor is it that's making competition ineffective - or is there still under-supply?]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 10:24:10 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Peter_in_Hungary</cite>If the inverters are placed with the panels consider the problems of accessibility when replacing a failed inverter.</blockquote>Agreed. But, I have seen a lot about larger single inverters failing when out of their limited warranty (or the firm has gone bust) so the cost of replacing one Micro Inverter is way less than a larger inverter replacement (is my rationale).<br />Also no DC floating about!]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:05:10 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Peter_in_Hungary</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: borpin</cite>so the cost of replacing one Micro Inverter is way less than a larger inverter replacement</blockquote><br />Unless you have to put up scaffolding<br />and then when you get another failure the following year you have the scaffolding all over again.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:50:05 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[Choose microinverters with a good reputation and a long warranty. Replace them all when the warranty expires? Scaffold towers aren't that expensive to hire. And I might expect a microinverter installer to own one?]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 13:11:45 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>philedge</author>
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			<![CDATA[I suspect that the minimum your gonna get charged by your average reputable solar installer to change a micro inverter/optimiser is the best part of half a day to erect and strike an alloy tower and change the unit. Some do it cheaper working off a ladder and some might want a full scaffold. Having changed a couple of optimisers I know it's not an easy task to lift a panel and unplug it on your own so I wouldn't surprise me if some installers saw it as a 2 man job!]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 15:45:26 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Peter_in_Hungary</author>
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			<![CDATA[Does the elf an safety allow a tower on a 2 story (ground and 1st) building or are towers limited to bungalows?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 07:06:26 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>richardelliot</author>
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			<![CDATA[+1 for keeping the kit on your roof (which needs scaffolding to replace) as simple as possible. I have micro inverters and one has failed. A replacement was sent out under warranty with no quibbles, but it isn't economic for me to replace it.<br /><br />I would also definitely consider batteries. Being able to time shift your use, and force export during peak hours, is how I think you get the bigger savings.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 10:47:32 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>WillInAberdeen</author>
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			<![CDATA["corrugated profiles"<br /><br />Have got these on a couple of outbuildings and they haven't been a huge success, inevitably a screw leaks a little and lets in water that softens the purlin wood and loosens the screw and then it leaks some more.<br /><br />For a house roof I would go for a system which doesn't rely on screws with rubber washers to keep the rain out.<br /><br /><br /><br />On scaffolding -  any roof worker who is prepared to cut corners by working off a ladder in these days of scaffolding everywhere, is likely to be cutting other corners on the quality of the job.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 11:14:14 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>borpin</author>
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			<![CDATA[A lot of roof tasks are now done by a platform lift, either vehicle based or self propelled. I'd still suggest that replacing a single inverter will be cheaper than replacing a large inverter.<br /><blockquote ><cite >Posted By: richardelliot</cite>I have micro inverters and one has failed. A replacement was sent out under warranty with no quibbles, but it isn't economic for me to replace it.</blockquote>But, if it had been out of warranty, at least you have only lost a proportion of your generation. If it had been a single inverter, it would all be gone.<br /><br />If under warranty, was the installer not liable to replace it?<br /><br />Consideration of how you do work in the future at height should be a factor in your initial design.<br /><br />I again go back to my point on whole lifetime cost. Solar has a finite lifespan and the replacement cost should be a factor in the 'I've got really cheap elec bills' statements.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 11:56:44 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: WillInAberdeen</cite>"corrugated profiles"<br /><br />Have got these on a couple of outbuildings and they haven't been a huge success, inevitably a screw leaks a little and lets in water that softens the purlin wood and loosens the screw and then it leaks some more.</blockquote>That's alarming - have used 'corrugated iron' on a few domestic projects (inhabited space), no complaint so far.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 22:05:59 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[Make your roof finish out of solar pv , cheaper than some tiles.<br />Exports around 12p kWh<br />5kW panels will be about £6k with Scaffold<br />Make you about £1k year<br />Don't use microinverters on simply arrays , they increase complexity and do go wrong <br />Don't feel you have to fit a battery<br />Return is about half what PV is<br />If your a hig energy user batteries make better sense]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 12:54:28 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>build4less</author>
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			<![CDATA[Declaring an interest: we're Build4less, a building materials supplier.<br /><br />On the corrugated versus slate question, it's worth deciding the roof finish and the PV mounting together while the scaffold is up, as each affects the other.<br /><br />If you go with metal, a standing seam sheet lets the panels clamp straight onto the seams with no holes through the roof at all, which sidesteps the leaking screw problem WillInAberdeen describes. With through fixed corrugated or trapezoidal sheets, both the sheet fixings and the PV brackets go through the roof, so the detailing matters. Fix through the crowns rather than the troughs where the water runs, use fixings with bonded EPDM washers, and tighten only until the washer seats rather than squashing it flat. Overtightened or angled screws are the usual cause of those slow leaks that then soften the purlins.<br /><br />With slate or tile, an in roof mounting system replaces the covering under the array, so you buy fewer slates. Just make sure the flashing kit is made for your chosen covering, and agree up front whether the roofer or the PV installer is responsible for the flashings and battens around the array, so nothing falls between the two trades.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 16:09:19 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: build4less</cite>a standing seam sheet lets the panels clamp straight onto the seams with no holes through the roof at all</blockquote>To add: fixing the PV panels doesn't require holes either, the panel mounts clamp on to the standing seam.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 11:20:46 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Declaration: I work for a UK building materials supplier.<br /><br />Thanks djh, that's a fair addition and a clearer way to put it. With standing seam both the sheet itself and the PV rails go on without a single hole through the weathering layer, because the sheets are held by concealed clips and the panel mounts clamp onto the seams. That's a big part of why it suits a roof that will carry an array.<br /><br />The one thing worth checking is that the clamps are matched to the actual seam profile and sheet gauge, as there are a few different seam shapes about and a clamp made for one won't necessarily grip another properly. It's also worth asking the sheet supplier whether fitting clamps affects their warranty, and confirming the seam spacing works with the panel layout before the sheets are ordered, so the rails land where you want them.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2026 12:10:51 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Victorianeco</author>
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			<![CDATA[James, good advice thankyou<br /><br /><br />How do I know if a battery would be worthwhile for my usage and payback?<br /><br /><br />Can you recommend in grid solar system?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2026 13:14:11 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>build4less</author>
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			<![CDATA[Declaration: I work for a UK building materials supplier.<br /><br />I think the question was aimed at James, but on the battery side, the best way to judge it is from your own half hourly data. If you have a smart meter, your supplier's app or account page should let you download a year of usage. Look at how much you use in the evening and overnight against what the array would make during the day. A battery only pays by moving units you would otherwise export at around 12p into the evening, when you'd be buying at 25p or more, so the yearly saving is roughly usable capacity times the number of days it cycles times that price gap. A 5kWh battery cycling most days at a 15p gap comes out somewhere around £250 a year, so compare that with the installed price and a realistic 10 to 15 year life. A cheap overnight tariff improves the sums, because you can charge from the grid in winter too.<br /><br />If you meant in roof systems, GSE and Viridian Clearline are the ones you'll come across most. Check the kit suits your covering and pitch, and that the installer is MCS certified so you can get the Smart Export Guarantee. Fitting it while the scaffold is up for the new roof is the cheapest time to do it.]]>
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