Wed, 08 Apr 2026 10:30:27 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24597#Comment_24597 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24597#Comment_24597 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:05:53 +0100 Chris Wardle
I'd like to see a single transferable vote. You would vote for a first and second preference and if no candidate got more than 50% on the first prefs, all but the two top candidates would drop out and their second pref votes would be added. I'd use the first pref votes to form the the House of Lords on a party list system strictly proportional to the national first prefs vote. That way you get a strictly representative revising chamber (with the power to alter bad legislation) with a Commons where there was still a chance of a single party forming a government without all the coalition building that can lead to weak administrations.

Under that system, I'd vote Green then Tory in that order, so I'd hopefully get a strong environmental voice in the Lords to scrutinise bills coupled with the ejection of the Labour administration.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24623#Comment_24623 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24623#Comment_24623 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:58:26 +0100 joe.e https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24629#Comment_24629 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24629#Comment_24629 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:06:35 +0100 biffvernon
Since our elections never seem to be won with a majority of one, all voting is wasted. Notwithstanding this self-evident truth I have voted in every possible election and my candidate has always lost by a very large margin. Why do I persist?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24635#Comment_24635 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24635#Comment_24635 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:50:24 +0100 mrswhitecat https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24642#Comment_24642 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24642#Comment_24642 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:05:13 +0100 joe.e Posted By: biffvernonjoe.e>unless the candidate won by a majority of one then your vote still didn't achieve anything

Since our elections never seem to be won with a majority of one, all voting is wasted. Notwithstanding this self-evident truth I have voted in every possible election and my candidate has always lost by a very large margin. Why do I persist?
Yes, I always vote as well. What I was arguing against is the idea that if your chosen candidate is certain not to win, you should vote for someone else who might, my point being that actually you're equally unlikely to have a measurable effect on the outcome. The whole point of democracy is that we agree to accept the majority opinion. In a multi-party situation with low turnouts, that means that most of the people, most of the time, will live with a government they didn't vote for. But that's ok, because that's democracy, and it's better than the alternatives. So I go ahead and vote for the person I'd like to get elected, regardless of what chance they have of winning. I'm stating my opinion, not betting on a horse race.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24724#Comment_24724 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24724#Comment_24724 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:37:17 +0100 greenman https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24730#Comment_24730 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24730#Comment_24730 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:21:49 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24807#Comment_24807 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24807#Comment_24807 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:42:49 +0100 biffvernon https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24892#Comment_24892 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24892#Comment_24892 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:44:18 +0100 greenman https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24893#Comment_24893 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24893#Comment_24893 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:57:55 +0100 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24911#Comment_24911 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1956&Focus=24911#Comment_24911 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:09:54 +0100 biffvernon