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    • CommentAuthorkrishna
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    Building a new bathroom. Going to have shower instead of bath. Wanted to get "quadrant" tray with a curve on one corner.
    Steel tray: can't find an affordable shower enclosure as the manufacturer has a different radius curve to the standard.
    Ceramic tray: would need to be imported and not pos to do that for weeks - we can't wait.

    The remaining options are a reinforced acrylic tray or something they call "stone resin" which I understand is a cement and stone mix with a gel/acrylic coating.
    Can anyone think of any environmental preference of one over the other?
    • CommentAuthorStuartB
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    Why bother with a tray. You could just use tiles and design it to any size or shape you like.
    • CommentAuthorludite
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    mosaic. . . . . .lovely!
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    Posted By: StuartBYou could just use tiles and design it to any size or shape you like.


    True, but to do it right is not as easy as it sounds. The waterproofing details are important - one solution I see recommended over and over is from Schluter Systems - but this route is probably as costly as a prefabricated tray. For what it's worth, we used a stone resin one - acrylic and fibreglass ones seem too flimsy to me and I didn't feel like all the futzing around to do a tile one, though the walls of the shower are tile.

    See http://www.schluter.com/4625.aspx for their shower system.

    Paul in Montreal.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    Posted By: Paul in Montrealfutzing around
    I shall find an opportunity to quote that.

    Bettefloor http://www.bette.co.uk is pretty cool - enamelled steel prob quite 'eco'
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    The stone resin trays are ok. Some are indifferent quality but most are ok. Basically it looks like poloshed fibreglass but instead of being thin and bendy the back is filled with ground up rock and resin so it's rigid. The shower head is probably more critical environmentally.

    I quite like the look of the JT40 series from Just trays. They do a quadrant in various colours and finishes. Quite shallow at only 40mm.

    http://www.just-trays.co.uk/products.html
    • CommentAuthorTimber
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     
    I used to work in plumbing (well in a plumbing shop) and the cast stone resin jobs are good!

    One really really good feature to look out for is some of the shower trays come with a thin upstand around the perimeter (well the ones against the wall (you spec)) that can be tiled over. It makes the whole thing so much more water tight. You are not just relying on a thin bead of mastic.
  2.  
    The Bettefloor is an excellent product, but soooh expensive and no good for Krishna because they don't come in a quadrant shape. I've been shopping around for Bettefloor suppliers but am reconciled to having 'galets' (flat pebbles) embedded in a Weber & Broutin waterproof enduit (stuff that looks and acts like putty).
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: mrswhitecatthey don't come in a quadrant shape
    They do - well, rectangular with a well-rounded corner - also pentagonal. Others will soon copy the principle, so price will drop.

    As the whole tray will lift off its subframe/seal (secured by the waste outlet's flange) there's a void space underneath into which a flat-coil waste-water heat recovery unit will fit http://www.shower-save.com - as if the basic unit wasn't expensive enough! This cd revolutionise such recovery, which hitherto has required a 1.5m clear vertical drop beneath the tray.
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    Right - seen the roundy ones now. The pentagon was disappointing, more a square with a chopped off corner. The Recoh shower tray was interesting though. If we could do without glass panel shower enclosures, we may have the wherewithall to pay for something like that.
    • CommentAuthorkrishna
    • CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
     
    Bette and Kaldewei both do quadrant and offset quadrant shape steel trays. That is where I started (having given up on installing a small Bette bath).Unfortunately, the radius of the curve on both is 500mm, whereas most enclosure manufacturers build to a 550mm radius. Bette make their own enclosures, which are available in the UK through Grant& Stone, but they are very pricey.

    I've been pondering heat recovery from the shower waste, but at that price...!
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