Sun, 31 May 2026 03:48:31 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31088#Comment_31088 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31088#Comment_31088 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:08:01 +0100 wookey
Chopping is a bit of a pain as chainsawing agravates my RSI, so get wife to do it now, but she gets sore too. Thus considering a wood-chopper that is better for us. Anyone tried these: http://tinyurl.com/6sasjj (Berlan BWS400 log cutter)? An alternative is a table-saw or chop saw which could also be used for proper woodwork, but that severely limits the depth of cut. Anyone have opinions on these methods?

A couple of points that deserve mentioning: 1) burning wet wood really does waste a remarkable amount of energy just driving the water off. Half the energy in a piece of wood can be wasted in generating steam and preventing the wood gasses being burned. 2) rain water is different from entrained water. Once logs have internally dried out then whilst rain will make them wet again this water will quickly dry off again (days rather than months). Whilst storing logs under a waterproof 'lid' of some sort is a good idea it is not necessary for them to become seasoned (or at least this is my understanding, and fits with my experience).]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31150#Comment_31150 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31150#Comment_31150 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:27:04 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31163#Comment_31163 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31163#Comment_31163 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:39:07 +0100 joe.e Posted By: luditesorry, this is a slight deviation. But we have a large (dead, felled) elm tree - should I burn it or try and sell it?
How large? Is it rotten or substantially sound? If it's got a good volume of solid timber in it, then don't chop it up yet! If the branches were removed, what size and shape of trunk would be left?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31198#Comment_31198 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31198#Comment_31198 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:47:03 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31203#Comment_31203 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31203#Comment_31203 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:27:51 +0100 TheDoctor https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31205#Comment_31205 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31205#Comment_31205 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:29:40 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31206#Comment_31206 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31206#Comment_31206 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:30:53 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31210#Comment_31210 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31210#Comment_31210 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:29:18 +0100 TheDoctor
i'll put thruppence ha'penny on it being closer to £500!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31221#Comment_31221 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31221#Comment_31221 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:05:02 +0100 joe.e https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31223#Comment_31223 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31223#Comment_31223 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:26:04 +0100 StuartB https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31228#Comment_31228 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31228#Comment_31228 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:24:16 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31232#Comment_31232 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31232#Comment_31232 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:04:09 +0100 Terry
Mike 7 we are going down your modular route with trolleys to minimise handling and also since we have to get it upstairs. Installing a trapdoor and hand winch to lift them up. Too much experience as a youngster carting armfulls of wood every day hasnt stopped me wanting a wood burner though.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31259#Comment_31259 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31259#Comment_31259 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:16:54 +0100 mike7 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31261#Comment_31261 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31261#Comment_31261 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:06:44 +0100 DdraigGoch
Having no heating other than my 20Kw stove [soon, hopefully, to be joined by a small Wamsler boiler for the central heating and a wood fired cooking range - LaNordica Rosa, no water heating] in a 3,750 sq ft barn which I'm attempting to get fully converted [my life story!] I'm needing a LARGE amount of wood. So far I've got about 8 agricultural trailer loads of 2' cubes of semi-seasoned logs and the OH is knocking them into logs as and when he can. We're storing them in the open on pallets - nowhere else to put that much, but I'm sure you can see why we need that much! - and occasionally we manage to keep a piece of corrugated iron sheet on it overnight, but storms tend to blow them off. We just have to dry it out as we use it.

Is anyone else finding that they're ripping through their "winter" wood due to the cold weather? We find that the barn just gets cold and damp so easily that we're having to have the fire on for 4 or 5 hours a day already!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31273#Comment_31273 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31273#Comment_31273 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:05:18 +0100 joe.e Posted By: mike7More deviation - I have an oak log left here 20 odd years ago by previous occupants, about 6m long and average 2m girth which looks as though the tree rotated or was twisted as it grew, about 1.5 revolutions over the 6m. It would make a very fine barber's pole if rather large, but I imagine this twisted grain would make it difficult to use in many situations and maybe that's why it was left. Should I try and do something with it?
That's a lot of oak! I'd say the same thing that I said to Ludite - ring a few people who might be end users and see if any of them want to pay to cut it into boards on the spot and take them away. The log you've got must be about 18 or 19 cubic metres of wood - not all good, of course, but there must be someone who pay a bit for it. If it was cut into boards in the right way the grain might give a really beautiful appearance.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31294#Comment_31294 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31294#Comment_31294 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:49 +0100 mike7 I'll need some new floor boards in a while, and thought I might cut it up myself. I've heard there are machines available that can be set up on site - have you ever came across one? I wouldn't fancy it with a hand-held chain saw!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31295#Comment_31295 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31295#Comment_31295 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:36:15 +0100 joe.e Posted By: mike7Thanks joe.e - Volume is more like 2 cu mtrs. Maybe you mistook my girth figure for the diameter. That really would be some wood!
I'll need some new floor boards in a while, and thought I might cut it up myself. I've heard there are machines available that can be set up on site - have you ever came across one? I wouldn't fancy it with a hand-held chain saw!
Ah. Not quite so dramatic as I thought, then... But still worthwhile. Yes, there are chain saw mills that you set up on site - http://www.logosol.co.uk/ for some good ones.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31300#Comment_31300 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31300#Comment_31300 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:44:19 +0100 mrswhitecat https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31306#Comment_31306 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31306#Comment_31306 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:37:44 +0100 mike7 ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31314#Comment_31314 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31314#Comment_31314 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:39:57 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31316#Comment_31316 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31316#Comment_31316 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:41:23 +0100 ludite https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31334#Comment_31334 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31334#Comment_31334 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:38:47 +0100 mrswhitecat
If I remember rightly ludite I think there was some sort of 'sanitation zone' around elms (like they have for foot & mouth) and you weren't allowed to move the wood. This may affect your saw mill options.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31356#Comment_31356 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31356#Comment_31356 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:30:21 +0100 Terry
We have a few small elms alive and well, but a lot more dead ones. a few of them got to about 6 or 7 m high and about a foot across the stem]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31357#Comment_31357 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31357#Comment_31357 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:36:30 +0100 TheDoctor

gotta love the UK's mix of Imperial and metric!

my joiner's lad always had me in stitches shouting measurements like "3 ft long, and 120mm wide" but best of all was the "cut it at 2ft 10mm long"

Great Britain - a very special kind of bonkers]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31362#Comment_31362 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31362#Comment_31362 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:53:23 +0100 joe.e Posted By: TheDoctor"6 or 7 m high and about a foot across the stem"


gotta love the UK's mix of Imperial and metric!

my joiner's lad always had me in stitches shouting measurements like "3 ft long, and 120mm wide" but best of all was the "cut it at 2ft 10mm long"

Great Britain - a very special kind of bonkers
Actually, we're in the United Kingdom. Or maybe in England, or Wales, or Scotland? Or the British Isles? Anyway, we proudly order our 2x2's by the metre here, and our 8x4's are 1220x2440mm. Or do we get our 50x50's by the foot? I do get confused sometimes...]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31363#Comment_31363 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31363#Comment_31363 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:57:52 +0100 TheDoctor https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31364#Comment_31364 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31364#Comment_31364 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:23:22 +0100 richardt https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31368#Comment_31368 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31368#Comment_31368 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:07:53 +0100 rogerwhit
Firewood is always the fall-back option. I often get approached by hopeful but naive fallen tree-owners.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31370#Comment_31370 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31370#Comment_31370 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:32:43 +0100 mrswhitecat https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31381#Comment_31381 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2361&Focus=31381#Comment_31381 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:27:14 +0100 ludite