Tue, 25 Aug 2026 12:56:47 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2676#Comment_2676 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2676#Comment_2676 Tue, 01 May 2007 08:19:41 +0100 biffvernon http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

For best ongoing analysis see RealClimate
http://www.realclimate.org/]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2814#Comment_2814 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2814#Comment_2814 Fri, 04 May 2007 14:13:52 +0100 biffvernon
http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM040507.pdf]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2817#Comment_2817 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2817#Comment_2817 Fri, 04 May 2007 14:44:16 +0100 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2828#Comment_2828 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=2828#Comment_2828 Fri, 04 May 2007 18:45:40 +0100 biffvernon https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3109#Comment_3109 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3109#Comment_3109 Sat, 12 May 2007 20:18:25 +0100 Geoff Beacon suggest they are having a hard time getting their message across
and fighting off many interest groups and political lobbies.

BUT ... I have received an email from the Chief Scientist at the Met
Office, which concedes that the Met Office (Hadley Centre) models
do not have important feedback mechanisms in them, viz. the
feedbacks from permafrost melting in Siberia, Canada etc. Many
of us have seen this methane on TV ...bubbling out of Siberian lakes.
The Guardian had a piece in 2005 reporting the size of the Siberian
methane. See
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1546824,00.html

Also the methane from river deltas does not seem to be
included in the models.

This is worrying in itself because, it seems that these models
were used in the calculation of temperature rises predicted by
the IPCC. What worries me even more is that I have not
got any official source to refute those that say "There are other
feedbacks that will cause accelerating climate change". One
member of this club is David Wadsell. See
http://www.meridian.org.uk/Resources/Global%20Dynamics/Feedback%20Dynamics/index.htm

Perhaps some of you could look at his site. I hope for feedback
that starts "This man is barmy because ..."

Anyway, the Met Office email, suggests the IPCC was behind the
game before they published.

I am trying to find out if our government knows.

Did the IPCC know?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3115#Comment_3115 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3115#Comment_3115 Sat, 12 May 2007 21:23:10 +0100 Chris Wardle
I think the people running the climate models are not accounting for these positive feedbacks loops because they are not well understood and hence probably can't be integrated into the models. I think it is dangerous to assume the climate will behave in a predictable, linear way as concentrations of greenhouse gases increase. That is why we should be preparing for the worst as well as doing everything we can to cut emissions.

This rapid switching in global climatic conditions has happened throughout the history of the Earth, for example, when we move from a glaciation to an inter-glacial period. We are probably now providing the trigger that will force the switch to a hot state. Hopefully it is still not too late to pull back from the brink.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3131#Comment_3131 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=247&Focus=3131#Comment_3131 Sun, 13 May 2007 08:36:37 +0100 biffvernon http://www.realclimate.org/
This is far and away the most authoritative place on the net to start looking for climate science.]]>