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General: Sustainable building specifications - misuse

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    • CommentAuthorAT
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007 edited
     
    If building specifications are developed around sustainable ideas or innovated cutting edge technology what can be the resultant position for the architect in controlling and limiting his risk? What happens when these technologies are misunderstood or misused?
    Could anyone share any advise or links, books,etc..
    Does anyone know of articles or case studies of projects that could be used to discuss these ideas, or about projects where the technology have been misused and the architect then find themselves in hot water with misconduct charges flying around!
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    • CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    Innovative building systems specifications must be a controlled and strictly enforced on site by manufactures. There is no other way. The problem is when several manufactures have a product which makes up the building envelope, who is responsible for correct installation? Who is responsible for training? Who is responsibile for the insurance cover? Good products are getting screwed-up every day because of misunderstanding and misuse on-site. What is the risk to our PI insurance in the longer term?- will we be able to afford the insurance premiums?
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      CommentAuthornigel
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    Thats why we pay architects such large sums of money, to keep abreast of new technology and to take some responsibility.
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      CommentAuthorKieran
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: nigelThats why we pay architects such large sums of money


    :bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorAT
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2007
     
    Thanks for the comments, some interesting lines of thought.
    Site management is essential with representation for the manufacturers I agree. As you say I think a lot of the argument comes down to the correct understanding of the products.

    Would a individual project insurance system as used in europe be beneficial for the use of more elaborate enivronmental techniques?
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2007
     
    Posted By: ATWould a individual project insurance system as used in europe be beneficial for the use of more elaborate enivronmental techniques?
    Would be good for all sorts of reasons - i've never found out why it's not available in UK.
    • CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2007
     
    Insurance companies collect many premiums on double, triple, quadruple cover for the same risk it's almost a bigger scam than NHS drugs.
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    AT,
    None of the sustainable agenda represents increased risks over and above conventional solutions.
    In fact many of the sustainable solutions have more provenance anyway.
    We are all a product of our own generation and experiences. Because we have new information and materials to work with shouldnt change much at all.
    Can I soothe you by suggesting an open collaborative approach with a peer review is all you need.
    Between the engineers / architects / client / contractors all the skills exist.
    We cannot do more than exercise our very best skill and endeavour.
    www.thamesrenewables.com
    • CommentAuthorAT
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2007
     
    Thanks Paul, website seems quite interesting.
    I think an open collaboration with all consultants should be a primary in all projects. However the need for specialised consultants will be excentuated with the specification of advance and new product, is there enough people out there with the knowledge that can be brought on board without effecting the clients approach to the project? The environmental consultant should know be added to the list at the earliest stages.

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