Wed, 26 Aug 2026 07:10:15 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=2890#Comment_2890 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=2890#Comment_2890 Tue, 08 May 2007 00:31:29 +0100 jacky1011
Sustainability has become a popular issues, the government recognize its importance to create a better quality for life. Therefore various actions plans and strategies were develop in order to implement sustainability into real world practices.

Such as the sustainable code, sustainable procurement strategy etc
But does these plans successful? If not, what are the problems? What stops sustainability to be implemented ?

I would be appreciate if all of you take part in this discussion as I would hope to gain as many information as possible in a very short time due to time constraints.

I develope a questionnaire to be distribute. Who is interest to fill in please contact me and i will email to you.
JacquelineJoo797@hotmail.com

Million thanks for all who are willing to help me.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=2998#Comment_2998 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=2998#Comment_2998 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:50:44 +0100 Guest
Sustainable practices of course will lead to higher initial cost but save in later operational cost. But clients is not aware of that.

The public lack of knowledge of whole life costing is also another issues. They are still ' tied back' with traditional thinking that the cheaper the better.

The government sector if as a client would oppose this criterion.Sustainable is mostly build in government sector projects. Problems occurs after project completion, most common problems is cost is higher than expected.

Hope its helps]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3031#Comment_3031 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3031#Comment_3031 Thu, 10 May 2007 23:05:17 +0100 tony
Some things cost nothing, many produce significant savings in running costs, some have long term payback times but even these are shorter than the life of the building.

The main barrier to the change towards more sustainable construction is the stick in the mud ways of the building industry in combination with a singular lack of education of the general public. When considering a move of home the slogan location, location location rules but it won't be long before greener issues start to be factored into this equation.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3049#Comment_3049 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3049#Comment_3049 Fri, 11 May 2007 11:24:10 +0100 Chris Wardle
All the initiatives, regulations etc coming out of governments will not get us off the beach in time. We need a crisis to galvanise people into action. My guess is there will be some kind of oil supply shock (combination of trouble in Iran, Nigeria, and hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico etc) leading to queues for fuel or national grid interuption due to a terrorist incident on the gas pipelines form Russia. People will see what it means to live without cheap, readily available energy and that will give the authorities the political cover to introduce a rationing system like TEQs or much higher energy taxes. Only then will we get the demand destruction we need to make the transistion to to a low energy economy which relies on indigenous energy sources and gets emissions on steep downward trajectory.

The sooner we get a wake up call the better. If we pass Peak Oil first then we will have to make the transistion against the back drop of a hyperinflationary depression with governments desperately trying to stimulate demand by printing money and supply constrained by dwindling energy resources. I think we have a maximum of 5 years.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3051#Comment_3051 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3051#Comment_3051 Fri, 11 May 2007 11:37:31 +0100 jacky1011
prudent use of natural resource which cause minimum negative impact on the environment, which maintain the quality of life for the present and future.

Hopes that comply with yours. But does sustainability constructions usually produce buildings with a higher initial cost, introducing new technologies, construction methods and some environmental friendly materials?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3052#Comment_3052 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3052#Comment_3052 Fri, 11 May 2007 12:46:01 +0100 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3060#Comment_3060 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=264&Focus=3060#Comment_3060 Fri, 11 May 2007 14:29:57 +0100 Chris Wardle
Things start getting expensive when you try to go a step further and become zero carbon because you have to invest in microgeneration which is very costly at the moment. Better to get 75% of the benefit for 25 % of the cost and leave it at that, rather than chasing the last 25% which costs 75% of the extra money (figures are just for illustration purposes). Call it "eco-minimalism" if you like, keep it simple, don't just throw money at the problem.

What stops sustainbility being implemented is the fact that energy is still much too cheap. Oil at $60 a barrel is being given away. Until this changes, what incentive have people got to implement sustainable design strategies? So long as we are not given the full facts on oil and gas reserves, the market will not drive prices higher until total production peaks i.e. it won't see the peak coming and drive up prices to reduce demand.

There needs to be a paradigm shift from the current belief that energy will always be cheap and easily available to a new paradigm where we arrange our societies to cope with a steadily falling and less reliable supply of energy. I don't think we are at that tipping point yet. We need a energy supply shock to galvanise opinion, then the energy sustainability agenda will start to be implemented as an urgent priority.]]>