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  1.  
    I was considering using a wind turbine to power underfloor heating in a kitchen and bathroom. As this is just a resistive load, the turbine could be simplified as it is not grid connected and does not need to run at a specific frequency or produce a fixed voltage...

    Doesn't a heating load make the most sense for a turbine?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2008
     
    not direct electric!
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2008
     
    Makes some sense in that the total system is simplified - but will the wind be blowing when you want the heat?

    Possibly more sensible to put the power into an immersion heater in a thermal store and then release the heat when needed.
  2.  
    Hi, rather than use a dumping load (in lieu of exporting) you can (i think) get immersions specifically for this. Cant find the reference just now. If was a smallish power turbine then such an imersion might fit a conventional cylinder. But you would have to lose the normal imersion. This would at least give you some means to accumulate any excess generation.
    Cheers, Mike up North
  3.  
    I figure I'd want the heat most in the winter, when it seems to be quite windy? The windspeed average is 6ms. The floor is stone so it will at like a thermal store to some extent.

    Is using a water tank thermal store and hot water underfloor heating worth the extra complexity and hence money?
    • CommentAuthorskywalker
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2008
     
    I guess it gives you a bit more flexibility in terms of heat sources for the UFH.

    Probably not worth it unless you could do with upgrading and integrating some other your other wet systems.

    We could only justify the hole the heat store put in our budget because we needed to completely re-plumb and we really, really, really wanted solar.

    S.
    • CommentAuthormikep
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
     
    I've heard of a few places using wind turbines for heating, but they're all using heat pumps, as then you get several units of heat per unit of electricity. I guess you don't want to rip up your floor and put water-based underfloor heating in though.

    If you did, there's a Cornish company that make a heat pump kit that can be DIY installed. They won an award for it this year: http://www.ashdenawards.org/winners/kensa08
    • CommentAuthorhowdytom
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2008
     
    There was a company a few years ago trying to direct drive a heat pump via a gearbox on the blade, never heard the outcome
    • CommentAuthorsjohnson2
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2008
     
    hello all, not sure if this info i was reading the other day is of any help, but i thought it may be related to this discussion (I just copied & pasted from what I saved):

    "I am director of a small partnership who have spent the past 15 years inventing and perfecting a revolutionary new wind turbine design. We are looking for a Business Angel investor to help us get this project off the ground.

    Our turbine aims to be the cheapest dollar per kilowatt turbine in the world and is ideally suited for domestic and urban installation unlike current turbine designs. It runs silent, is incredibly cheap to manufacture and looks fantastic too. We intend marketing two versions, a 300W one intended for powering household lights/refrigerators/ TV/DVDs etc and a larger 1.5KW turbine to be installed in arrays to power farms and rural areas not able to connect to the electricity grid.

    The turbine will be bought in a small-suitcase size carry pack and can be attached to a house roof or wall much like a satellite dish. It does not need to be elevated as current horizontal (or propeller type) turbines do. Each 300W turbine will cost around $350 to manufacture including toroidal design PMG and "black box" containing charge/load/shunt controllers, a 600W inverter and deep cycle battery. Cost Price of entire package will be around $700 making it the cheapest dollar per kilowatt turbine in the world.

    Our unique turbine control mechanism is patentable but we currently lack the funds to proceed with this. We estimate we need around $250 000 to begin manufacturing and marketing this fantastic turbine which is going to turn the renewable energy market on its head! We have 4000sqm factory space at our disposal and a small manufacturing staff of around 5. For a cash investment and hopefully business and marketing advice and assistance, we are offering up to 30% equity in our company. Please contact me if there are any Business Angels interested in this potentially highly profitable venture.

    Our comprehensive business plan which conservatively estimates profits of around $1 750 000 per annum can be supplied on request.

    Kind regards

    Laurence Lemmon-Warde

    director
    winggen wind turbines
    +27 82 566 8297"

    Best of Luck. Sam .............. http://www.arigreenenergy.com/" >wind generator
  4.  
    An old thread, but updated with new information....

    If you hope to benefit from ROC's or Feed In Tarrif, then you will need to have a system where the electricity is measurable at nominal voltage and frequency. For the UK, thats either 230 or 400V and 50 Hz. Voltage has a +/-10% tolerance, but frequency is much tighter. Fall outwith that bands and OFGEM will not accredit your meter, and you will be ineligible for ROC's or Feed In Tarrif. The direct heating system will still work, but you will get no ROC or FIT support for it.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2009
     
    Richard

    We had a similar discussion a while back but using PV to run a heat pump.

    http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4185&page=1#Comment_56691

    Still I am with you in your thinking. If you have enough thermal storage then it is an effective way of doing it, and as you say, cheap and simple. I am of the opinion that not enough consideration is taken for space heating, tends to be all about heating water or self generating electricity. Though not losing heat is the paramount think so insulate, then insulate some more and then add a bit.

    Nick
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2009
     
    I like that post :thumbup:
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