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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Pat</author>
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			<![CDATA[My daughter has just moved into a 150 year old cob cottage in Devon. She wants to attach curtain rails and shelves directly to the cob walls but is concerned that conventional plastic plugs and steel screws could cause damage. <br />Any recommendations about fixings for day-to-day needs like these? Are there specialist products avalable?]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[How about trying these? Designed for plasterboard but I don't see why they wouldn't work in cob <a href="http://www.thesitebox.com/Category/4405/self-drive-plasterboard-fixings.aspx" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesitebox.com/Category/4405/self-drive-plasterboard-fixings.aspx</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>howdytom</author>
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			<![CDATA[I think you would have to pilot drill, for that type of fixing on a solid wall. drill the same size as the inner dia of the fixing and all should be good.<br />tom]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>chuckey</author>
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			<![CDATA[The problem with those sort of fixings is that when the screw is finally tightened, is that the actual plug body  can start to rotate and makes a large hole in the plaster board.<br />  It all  depends on how hard/soft the plaster and cob are. If the plaster is lime, to get through the skincoat (hardish) and the undercoat (v. soft) into the cob(hardness =?), I would go for a plastic plug at least 4" long. Something like :- <a href="http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;jsessionid=OUDSICZUHOKW4CSTHZPCFFA?_dyncharset=UTF-8&fh_search=20795&searchbutton.x=30&searchbutton.y=15" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;jsessionid=OUDSICZUHOKW4CSTHZPCFFA?_dyncharset=UTF-8&fh_search=20795&searchbutton.x=30&searchbutton.y=15</a>  <br />  It would be better to replace the  ordinary screws with stainless steel screws.<br />  I once put up "spur" shelving and had to make 42 3" long plugs and glue them into place, that was for heavy book shelves through a lime plastered wall into a brick wall.<br />        Frank]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Pat</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thanks for these comments - our concern is that the expansion of the plug as the screw is driven home may cause cracking of the cob. I have read one article which suggests that a plastic insert is glued into a drilled hole to provide a  housing which will hold the screw without exerting radial pressure on the cob. However the article did not specify any named products.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Rachel</author>
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			<![CDATA[Best to talk with someone who works with cob..]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>edscutt</author>
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			<![CDATA[First posting on a forum<br />I've been renovating and living in an old cob cottage in wiltshire for the last 9 years. I took tuition from a lime plasterer for the care of cob walls. I believe the old technique (which I have used successfully) is to drill out a pilot hole and drive in a suitably sized wooden peg. For a reasonably secure fixing eg for a mirror or electrical socket I reckon it needs a square shaped peg about 5cm by 5 cm and about 20 long. The key is to knock in gently and if it seems to be holding and filling the hole snuggly carry on knocking it home. If you need anything bigger than a standard hammer your hole is too small! You can cut off any excess peg left sticking out when it's in far enough to hold firm. The cob will 'accommodate' the peg as it's driven in. <br />The other approach for really serious fixings (that I used to attach a wall beam) was bolts set in resin. Screwfix stock the type of product but I haven't used their brand: Fischer Hybrid Mortar Resin V 360<br />hope this helps]]>
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