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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>GBP-Keith</author>
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			<![CDATA[The Green Building Press will not be attending or supporting Ecobuild in 2009.<br /><br />Why have we chosen not to promote, attend or support EcoBuild this time? <br /><br />This has been a regular question over the last few weeks.  Many of you will propbably know that we have been involved in helping to promote EcoBuild since 2004 when it started out as The Green Building Conference and Exhibition within CityScape, officially launched as EcoBuild in 2006. <br /><br />For that very first we provided most of the contacts for the speakers. Well, it has become very popular and much bigger, with much greenwash being evident at the 2008 event.  <br /><br />Furthermore, we have, for some time we have been concerned regarding the environmental impact of such large events, both with regards to the resources used and travelling implications so in 2007 we instigated a policy of only supporting 'larger' events which work to the BS 8901 Sustainable Events Management System. <br /><br />In 2008 EcoBuild advised us that it was working towards this standard but we are concerned that little progress has been made in making the event more sustainable. <br /><br />We have therefore taken the decision to support only smaller more local events, where there is more control regarding the exhibitors and which encourage less national and international travel. <br /><br />For example, we are actively supporting Homes for Good, on the 17th and 18th April 2009.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Matt</author>
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			<![CDATA[I am soooo tempted to get a bunch of (really difficult to remove) 'Eco Bullshit Award' stickers made up and wander round in the evening, offering the award to the most suitable stands and displays...Unfortunately my idea of being dressed as a green ninja while attaching the stickers, would get me arrested I suspect...!<br /><br />I cannot speak for my employer, but I too share your concerns over the event. Last years greenwash was becoming laughable, even compared to one year previously. It was a noticeable change last year - I too have attended since 2004.<br /><br />I think however there is a place for such an event to 'sway' the mainstream construction industry, and the environmental cost of such an event is more than off-set by the gains made in better buildings.<br /><br />I also think that the show should be working to this BS8901 immediately - not trying to achieve it.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>GBP-Keith</author>
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			<![CDATA[The battle lines are definitely moving from      'green v's mainstream'       to      'green v/s  greenwash'.<br /><br />It is an important battle because otherwise the planet is actually going to be more damaged than if we had not bothered campaigning for green buildings in the first place!]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Matt</author>
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			<![CDATA[Agreed - I fell around laughing at a presentation by a company a few weeks ago. Thankfully someone else in the room took up the questioning (I was the other speaker at the event) - and ended up deeply embarrassing the company who were 'out greenwashing' everyone....]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Peter Clark</author>
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			<![CDATA[I live in Durham in the North East, are there any events nearer us than 'Homes for Good' in the South West?<br /><br />Peter]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Keith<br /><br />Interesting.<br /><br />The company I work for will be there and should have quite a pressence this year.<br /><br />I think its a double edge sword. On one hand we want to spread the word, and trade shows are a good way of doing that, however all the traveling, car miles, power useage at the event, etc etc will add up to a lot of unecessary energy useage and associated carbon and generaly badness emissions.<br /><br />Perhaps as a company I could suggest ways to make our pressence create less of an impact. Any suggestions? Car share? train? how as an individual or a company can we do more?<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SimonH</author>
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			<![CDATA[How about a virtual exhibition?<br /><br />Get a site set up, have exhibitors on hand to answer questions and then promote the event. <br /><br />To make it more like a real exhibtion have a floor layout - with the detail of exhibtors in each area. Charge more for the amount of floor space they intent to take up (i.e. how big they want their advert to appear on the map). The best thing is your virtual exhibition hall can be as big as you need. <br /><br />Not sure if theres an app around that can make this pretty, but you could probably start off looking at something like Sharepoint.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[You can't beat seeing products first hand...<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Davipon</author>
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			<![CDATA[I recently attended a plumbing & heating exhibition at Chelsea fc where the stands pretty much basked in reflected glory of greenness.<br />A lot of the peripheral aspects ie;catering,bar,corporate hospitality did make the eco claims land a bit flat.<br />Maybe more exhibitions on a smaller scale(just products)could travel to more places with access for locals?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Matt</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: James Norton</cite>You can't beat seeing products first hand...<br /><br />J</blockquote><br /><br />And you cant beat meeting potential customers fist hand.<br /><br />As a business, we took all our stand and the ThermoPlan used to build all last years EcoBuild cafe's down by one truck and all staff stayed 1 night in london/2days on stand and traveled by train. The cafe/stand ThermoPlan was then sold to be used/some was damaged and is now a display at headquarters and our BBQ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[I wonder if they'll have aircon in the lecture tents this year?<img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/devil.gif" alt=":devil:" title=":devil:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[At that time of year I would expect a patio heater per person!]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>DAI_EVANS</author>
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			<![CDATA[I'm afraid I've got to agree with James, I went last year and I learnt more in one day than weeks of trailing through company websites looking at photos of the products instead of holding them and imagining how I could incorporate them into projects. Also got a couple of free sample of a green roof material and test it to see if it would grow and guess what......it didn't! lol! I was going to go this year but due to train fares I've decided I'll save a few quid and take a holiday in Spain for two weeks! If you'd like people to go to these events in a more sustainable way, do something about train fares! Nearly Â£150 for a return ticket!]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>pmusgrove</author>
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			<![CDATA[Go by bus. Â£24.50 for 2 from Bristol to Earls Court.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Saint</author>
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			<![CDATA[Dai,<br />I never ever buy return rail tickets, always buy 2 singles...err there and back of course... and if possible buy them a couple of weeks before you travel. Its not like budget airline tickets, sometimes they even decrease as you get nearer the date. I've no idea why this should be but I'm going to London from Devon for 2 x Â£31 (OK I even bought first class at that price. Work on the train etc and all that) I think standard single fare was Â£21.50 or so each way. Standard return was Â£67, first class return Â£209!!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[I want to thank Chris Herring, Mark Siddall, Liz Reason and others for their devoted seminar teaching at Ecobuild to packed audiences - must have been 150? A mini AECB/Passivhaus fest!<br /><br />Exeter to London bus return with senile discount Â£13.15 - dep 04.35, dropped at the door 09.15 on the way in, return 18.30 - 11.20 - clockwork!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[I went - was good.<br /><br />Car shared with three other work collegues. <br /><br />Overall it was a good show, but does illastrate that people want to be able to buy green off the shelf, but not necesserily live by it!<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Timber</cite>people want to be able to buy green off the shelf, but not necesserily live by it!</blockquote>I wouldn't say that - the numerous seminars - 30 2-hour ones yesterday - were packed with people wanting to learn the 'live by' or 'design for' stuff - hardly any of the seminars looked like CPD-style disguised sales pitches. On top of the all-day Conference programme and the all-day celebs and ministers doing their sound-bites in the Arena programme. Three days of that. So it's not just a giant trade fair.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Timber</author>
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			<![CDATA[Well I must admit I didn't get to listern to any of the lectures.<br /><br />I was too busy doing the stand thing!<br /><br />Timber]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[Did they have air conditioning running this year?]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[The seminar presentations now available - see what you missed! <a href="http://www.ecobuild.co.uk/page.cfm/Link=412/t=m#PageAnchor04" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecobuild.co.uk/page.cfm/Link=412/t=m#PageAnchor04</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Yeah - I went down for all three days, caught some amazing seminars that were very useful and made some good trade links.  It was pretty damn profitable in all manner of ways for me.<br /><br />Proper knackering tho, 3 days finished me off...]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[Sooooo, did they have aircon in the lecture tents or not?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>betterroof</author>
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			<![CDATA[yup. it was still quite warm, with occasional blasts of the Arctic.  I remembered this and dressed appropriately, but I did have a laugh at the expense of those all suited and booted so very nicely...<img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/bigsmile.gif" alt=":bigsmile:" title=":bigsmile:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Mike George</author>
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			<![CDATA[So ecobuild could not design out aircon in March. Imagine the Carbon footprint if they held it in August]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>betterroof</author>
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			<![CDATA[indeed. it is unfortunate that ecobuild can't walk it's talk in terms of venue and utilities - it's horrible walking around and seeing all the cafe's touting their wares with never a locally sourced vegan wholemeal muffin in sight <img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title=":wink:" /><br /><br />seriously tho, it would be good to see them have an impact on earls court and similar venues in terms of retrofitting and making them more suitable.  But I think that the benefits that can be gained in terms of 'spreading the good word', networking and demonstration of appropriate technologies are worth the problems it creates in terms of waste and resource use.]]>
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