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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:07:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[GRP...you know the Polyroof type stuff...<br /><br />EPDM  - DIY able but shrinkage...?<br /><br />Good old fashioned felt...<br /><br />Thermoplastic?<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:02:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[...mmmh... rather disappointing response...<br /><br /><img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/sad.gif" alt=":sad:" title=":sad:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:36:25 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[From "green building handbook V2 " printed 2000<br />on flat roofs <br />"best buy <br />1. pitch roof<br />2. EPMD , or natural rubber<br />3. modified bitumen felt <br />avoid PVC,Chlorinated polyethylene<br /><br />polyester resin and glass fibre mat scores badly for ozone depletion,acid rain,occupational health,recycling/reuse/disposal <br />glass fibre felt performed worst for durability of all tested flat roof systems ,particularly at low temperatures <br />durability is roughly related to price , budjet products are not recommmended"<br /><br />hope this is of some help<br /><br />Jim]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:10:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[Cheers Jim,<br /><br />Surprised about the durability bit though had always assumed it to be pretty bomb proof...<br /><br />J  <img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/sad.gif" alt=":sad:" title=":sad:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:33:46 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[whats worse?   GRP roofing using local components or natural slates quarried and shipped over from Spain or China?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:42:27 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[I have a feeling that the resins used contain high levels of organic chlorine which is not good especially in a fire or on disposal.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:08:50 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: tony</cite>I have a feeling that the resins used contain high levels of organic chlorine</blockquote>GRP resins do not contain chlorine - they're polyester based. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyester_resin<br /><br />Paul in Montreal.]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:37:36 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[Shamelessly changing the name of hte thread from 'whats the environmnetal impact of GRP roofing'...<br /><br />thought I'd open it up...<br /><br />-performance<br />-cost<br />-durability<br /><br />-all balanced against environmental impact good old back of beermat LCA type thing<br /><br />J<br /><br />PS If this thread get hijacked by a bunch of "you should have a pitched thatched roof or one with recycled slates etc", I'll not be happy...]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:48:35 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[1. pitch roof <br />2. EPMD , or natural rubber<br />3. modified bitumen felt <br /><br />I guess this must be a good guide as mentioned above ,     <br />   'Jon'   posted some good stuff on a previous thread , he'd be the guy to ask.]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:53:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Roger</author>
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			<![CDATA[Shallow incline - Sedum roof?]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:55:44 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[...but what underneath to keep the water out Roger...?<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:11:41 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[What about a Walter Segal Flooded roof?! Takes out all the expansion and contraction, doesn't collapse your house unless the overflow gets blocked, and I gather he did it with built-up felt. Takes faith....<br /><br />...and you could have fish...]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:28:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[...as in provide upstands, let it fill with water and use the pool which forms as thermal buffering sort of thing to protect the felt...<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:36:19 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[Yep!]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:45:07 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>tony</author>
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			<![CDATA[I took apart a flat roof built by a builder 65 years after he did it --  it was amazing<br /><br />All he did was lay one layer of felt on the roofing boards ( non t & g), and cover it with 40mm of 10mm shingle -- there was an zinc retainer at the very edge.<br /><br />60 years no rot no hassel not expensive either. the "flat roof " did have a fall of 1 in 40.]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:46:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[Combining Nick and Tony's input... s'pose that shows the huge benefit of protecting the membrane whatever it is..<br /><br />..good job the one in question is going under a 'green' roof... only downside to that is of course if there is a leak...<br /><br />...feel another change of title coming on...]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:40:58 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Julian</author>
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			<![CDATA[Roofkrete James. Have used it and it's excellent. Can be used under green roofs successfully. Seamless, thin, durable.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:01:09 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[James,<br /><br />I am not sure I want my input 'combed'. Now my beard, that's another thing.....]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:58:57 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[edited...]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:59:20 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[Roofkrete eh.... now where did I hear that name...]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:45:47 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[...wasn't there a bloke who wanted to sell it that kept going on and on about it on this forum until it was explained that that was advertising....<br /><br />However shouldn't tar the whole lot with the same brush (little roofing joke there...? eh...? eh..?)...<br /><br />So Roofkrete then... only info I can find is that it is apparently the best thing since sliced bread unfortunately this comes from the manufacturers... so would be good to hear more of your experiences Julian...?<br /><br />(or any other experiences to the contrary...)<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:23:07 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[Yes, Roofkrete - much overlooked and underrated. Versatile, strong, resilient, seamless, hugely reinforced against cracking.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:28:13 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>James Norton</author>
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			<![CDATA[Who says...?<br /><br />And what actually is it...?<br /><br />J]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:43:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[It's reinforced conc 6mm thick reinf with multiple layers of fine square-mesh bound with very carefully graded fine-aggregate/cement. It's ferro-concrete yacht construction taken to a much higher level. A 40mm wide strip of it behaves much like a strip of spring steel - it bends quite a bit and returns to shape without even hairline cracks. Much description here <a href="http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=174" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=174</a> (ASMET is same stuff as Roofkrete). Unfortunately John Manniex its inventor died recently but his family in co-operation with Oxford Brookes is mounting a fresh campaign to develop and market uses for this amazing material.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:18:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>cookie</author>
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			<![CDATA[I am planning on Sarna single ply membrane for the one I'm doing in a few months, but would appreciate any more environmentally friendlier options... Sarna lasts a bloomin long time.<br /><br />Cookie]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:00:41 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Julian</author>
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			<![CDATA[James,<br /><br />Exactly as Tom describes. He should know he's been to the HQ.<br /><br />If you are ever in East Devon email me and come and have a look at it in use. Good for green roofs, balconies, flat roofs. Very cost effective and low cement content*. You can lap it over everything so no joins or seams.<br /><br />*Compared to materials with a much higher cement content!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:15:27 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>RobinB</author>
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			<![CDATA[So, does anyone know the answer to the thread's original question?  Sarna?  EPDM?  Sounds as if Roofkrete may not be commercially available at present. <br />Robin]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:45:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>bot de paille</author>
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			<![CDATA[. Very cost effective and low cement content*. You can lap it over everything so no joins or seams.<br /><br />*Compared to materials with a much higher cement content! <br /><br /><br /><br />Ive been try to find out teh ingredients of Roofkrete to get an idea of its eco credentials, toxicity etc<br />anyone know? or is it a  trade secret?<br /><br /><br />The site looks impressive except for the photo of the grinning reptile on the home page]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:37:32 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Julian</author>
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			<![CDATA[Hi Bot,<br />Trade Secret sums it up nicely. Even the contactors who install it don't know the exact ingredients. Good luck trying to find out!<br /><br />It claims to have contain only a small proportion of cement and even then it is as Tom said very thin. So a little goes a long way. As toxic as sand and cement usually is?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:20:59 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>fostertom</author>
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			<![CDATA[My guess is there isn't really a secret - no clever chemicals anyway - just some expert sourcing, grading and quality control of the bagged cement/aggregate mix.<br /><br /><blockquote ><cite >Posted By: RobinB</cite>Sounds as if Roofkrete may not be commercially available at present</blockquote>Certainly is.]]>
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