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Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

jwd — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:06:52 +0100

I just got my finalised quote back from Albo - just over Â£10k for 1 french window, 2 balcony doors, on fixed door-sized pane, 3 large windows (2@ 2.1m x 0.6m and 1 @ 1.2 x 2.1 m ), a lift and slide door and 4 doors including one double unglazed but insulated door and an entrance door (half glazed with two lrge side lights also half glazed) and 2 half glazed doors. All are laminated norway spruce with sikkens ral finish and triple glazed ( 4-12-4-12-4 Argon fill) . I originally asked for double glazing but the price difference for triple was tiny. They were very helpful and much cheaper than many double glazing suppliers - I had 5 quotes form a range of suppliers and this beat them all or when it didnt quality was significantly greater.

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating but from what I have seen they seem very good quality with good solid hardware from Roto.

Jw

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

DamonHD — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:20:30 +0100

I've just had a very fast and sensible-looking (not fully digested) response from ege.de...

Rgds

Damon

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

ledger.123 — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:17:00 +0100

If you are looking for triple glazing go to www.aluminiumtradeframes.com they also do aluminium clad timber and they put prices on there website so you at least have an idea of how much triple glazing should cost instead of being ripped off by large overpriced companies.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

Rich T — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:16:59 +0100

My triple glazing windows from Russell Timber Tech are due to arrive this week, either Thursday or Friday apparently. I could give an update once they've arrived if anyone is interested.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

evan — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:41:55 +0100

Yes please!

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

DamonHD — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:55:13 +0100

In case it is of any interest, I've written a few notes on my not-entirely-successful efforts to source 3G:

http://www.earth.org.uk/superinsulating-our-living-room.html#glazing

Rgds

Damon

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

MikeRumney — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:36:23 +0100

Just come across Viking (Greenerbuild now acting as an agent) waiting for quote but 3G windows approx Â£350 for 1m2 ...

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

Fred56 — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:24:19 +0100

Anyone know where we can satisfy all of the alphabet of acronyms. Timber certified to BS 644:2003, BS 7950, 3G, MoE, SBD, LTH, TWAS with 6.4mm laminated to glass certified to BS EN 356 2000 rating 2PA? Preferably opening out and not looking so, err, foreign. Roof windows too.

Tell me if I've missed any too.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

RachelWichall — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:15 +0100

Hello all

Newbie Here! Just searching around and looking to join in where relevant.

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djh — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:50:41 +0100

Posted By: RachelWichallthought I would drop in to mention that we supply and install

I hope you've cleared that with Keith! Pushing your own products and services isn't generally allowed. And resurrecting old threads is generally considered impolite.

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RachelWichall — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:16:14 +0100

Oh dear, sorry to djh and all. Very very new to this and have messed up straight away. Hope to learn lots from this site and find out about products on the market to use in the construction of eco homes etc.

I have deleted those orginal comments.

sorry

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fostertom — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:28:16 +0100

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

fostertom — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:30:54 +0100

Posted By: djhresurrecting old threads is generally considered impolite

eh? I do it all the time - much hidden gold in old threads, deserving more airing.

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JSHarris — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:01:38 +0100

Posted By: fostertom
Posted By: djhresurrecting old threads is generally considered impolite
eh? I do it all the time - much hidden gold in old threads, deserving more airing.

Depends why it's done, in my view. Resurrecting an old thread to add some useful comment, or avoid starting another thread on the same topic is fine. Unfortunately, resurrecting old forum threads is a favourite ploy of spammers, who do it purely as a means to insert a gratuitous hyper link or two.

Another build-related forum I occasionally frequent is abused in this way fairly frequently, primarily because the moderator allows hyper links and URLs to be used willy-nilly in people's signatures, or thinly disguised as deceitful advertising links in the text of a meaningless message. Quite why advertisers feel it's a good idea to deceive people into looking at their website in this way is beyond me. I'd have thought most people would assume that if a company will deceive with it's advertising then it will most probably deceive in other ways too, making them an unwise choice to do business with.

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James Norton — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:17:57 +0100

Can't fault Russell Timbertech for no frills U=0.9 windows.

J

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fostertom — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:20:19 +0100

Me too - expecting a delivery in 2wks - have used no-one else for a while, as unbeatable price/adequate quality, but am aware that they now have plenty of competition. Time to shop around again.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

djh — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:04:50 +0100

Posted By: JSHarrisQuite why advertisers feel it's a good idea to deceive people into looking at their website in this way is beyond me.

They're trying to drive their websites up google's search rankings.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

JSHarris — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:27:00 +0100

Posted By: djh
Posted By: JSHarrisQuite why advertisers feel it's a good idea to deceive people into looking at their website in this way is beyond me.

They're trying to drive their websites up google's search rankings.

An interesting strategy! Still, it seems that trying to deceive the very people that might be potential customers has a lot of potential to backfire. I'd not ever do business with a company that chooses to advertise in this way, simply because of the deceitful way they choose to advertise. If they are prepared to deceive when advertising then one has to assume they will be prepared to deceive in other aspects of their business.

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daveking66 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:20:02 +0000

From the posts submitted so far it appears that Greenbuilding store windows and Russell Timbertech are at the top of the pile.
Would be keen to hear from anyone who's had either of these products for a few years to find how they are performing.

Happy to hear of any alternative suggestions too. I'm specifically looking for timber windows.

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

borpin — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:58:12 +0000

Just got my Albo windows, (IV92 profile frames, Triple glazed 4-18-4-18, mixture of spruce and oak plus all doors) and very impressed although I do not really have anything to compare them against. I think comparing windows using a price /m2 can be very deceiving.

I am so far very happy with them (just about to fit them) but they do take an effort to order and understand what they are asking (language problems) but they have a UK based agent again and an English speaker in the factory so that is helping. Lead times are longer than suggested so do not try and do it last minute!

I believe I have a much better product that the UK offerings at a lower price but YMMV.

(edit) Oh and the seals employed seem to be much better when I went and looked at the samples compared to those I looked at at one of the shows

Triple glazing suppliers, anyone know of a good one?

daveking66 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:57:27 +0000

Thanks borpin, Did you ask for quotes from anyone else though? I'm wondering how Albo compared

Also, it looks like they have a UK rep based in Devon:
http://www.albo.cz/english/contacts/

I'm only looking for a single window to be supplied so I guess all of the price per sq m comparisons will be difficult to make. Hopefully should find something fairly reasonable though as they're manufactured in the EU, which I understand to be more competitively priced than their UK counterparts.

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WMS — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:30:30 +0000

That's right, let's all go abroad and buy our Eco friendly sustainable products, made in far off distant lands, while local uk companies are struggling through the recession,

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nbwilding — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:53:09 +0000

I'd have been happy to have bought my wood-alu triple glazed windows from a UK manufacturer if they could compete on quality and price and style with continentals like Internorm. But they can't, so I didn't.

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borpin — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:06:58 +0000

Posted By: WMSThat's right, let's all go abroad and buy our Eco friendly sustainable products, made in far off distant lands, while local uk companies are struggling through the recession.

Yes but although you do do lovely Rehau UPVC windows, I could find no one who could do high spec wooden windows _and_ doors. Most of the ones I did look at were actually Scandinavian imports. All the UK manufactured ones were just not up to the job or way too expensive!

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DarylP — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:01:33 +0000

WMS.... I share your sentiments...

We were asked to source solid wood, 3G inward opening tilt/turns for clients.
Local, ie UK produced were approx 3 times the cost of N European/Scandinavian products of similar specification....we went to the clients with all the options, but it was a no-brainer.....

Why can the N Europeans produce better cheaper?

Cheers...

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jamesingram — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:09:21 +0000

Posted By: DarylPWhy can the N Europeans produce better cheaper?

Might it be because they structure their society in a way where those at the top expect less of the slice of the pie in their pockets each week, investing in a long term future for themselve rather than the 'get rich quick at the expense of others' gang.
I get the sense Germany , Scandinvian companies expect to grow slower and invest more in r&d than UK companies. At the other end, wages are lower in Germany than the UK and people are generally fruggler (info. from Radio 4 program). It seems everyone is more inclined to have a little less of the meaningless consumables we demand in the UK and work towards, dare I say it , a more social (list) society.

Perhap I'm looking with rose tinted specs though ?

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DarylP — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:19:46 +0000

James,

I agree wholeheartedly with the above, and twinned with our mad / unsustainable housing price bubble, unless businesses lower expectations, UK PLC will have a hard job getting back to work....

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Jonti — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:57:58 +0000

James,

your general take on the Germans is correct. They are much more reserved than we Brits have become in the last 30 years or so. They tend not to go for so much BLING but rather quality. I don't think they are a more socialist society. There are few, if any countries in the world that have such a vast and expensive benefit system as the UK.

Jonti

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fostertom — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:03:39 +0000

Posted By: daveking66it appears that Greenbuilding store windows and Russell Timbertech are at the top of the pile

Posted By: borpinI believe I have a much better product {Albo} that the UK offerings at a lower price

Posted By: WMSThat's right, let's all go abroad and buy our Eco friendly sustainable products, made in far off distant lands, while local uk companies are struggling through the recession

All of the above are European-sourced - Russell, GBS as well as Albo. True UK-produced ones may be v hard to find even from trad big UK manufs like Boulton & Paul now swallowed by Jeld-Wen (which is an international corporation) - and will certainly be crap compared to European alternatives.

Even your local joiner's materials will be imported - timber, glass - except in small margin of specialist cases. So which is better - import raw materials complete with all the wastage that's created during UK manuf (if any) - or just import the finished article?

Would be ideal if UK could home-grow the quality timber (and glass) that it consumes but until then, makes much sense to manuf the finished products near to source.

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adamwalker — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:08:04 +0000

I recommend Ling Joinery in Penrith 0.7u fixed panel and 0.8u openings with Pilkington triple glazed units. Slightly cheaper than GBS but actually made in Penrith rather than Latvia/Poland. They EcoPassive windows are BRFC A rated. http://www.lingjoinery.co.uk/