Wed, 10 Jun 2026 11:13:06 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63788#Comment_63788 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63788#Comment_63788 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:23:35 +0100 wellburn It does break my heart, compared to all the lime restoration I have done elsewhere, but this bit if ecovation requires a final airtight seal.
Condensation study says GLOSS paint. Don't want to do that, it's inside the house, guests sleep there, even I sleep there if I've had more than XXX beer.
So I have insulated. airtight sealed. Gypsum plastered, and am still fearful of condensating interstiller moisture lader air, and the computer says GLOSS PAINT to make condensation risk be zero. Keep it all inside.....?
What can I use ?
need to treat 1 month old fresh plaster.
plaster to timberwork joins etc.
A good coat of gloopy thick oily slop might make the whole thing airtight, but is there anything a little more natural?
Wellburn??

PS - If you must question my thinking, - please also recommend an eco non-breathing paint!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63792#Comment_63792 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63792#Comment_63792 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:59 +0100 bot de paille
Gloss paint seems a bit OTT, couple of coats of emulsion would be enough no?

Gloss will look horrible....:]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63794#Comment_63794 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63794#Comment_63794 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:49:40 +0100 wellburn Will emulsion make airtight?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63807#Comment_63807 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63807#Comment_63807 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:51:06 +0100 Nick Parsons https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63809#Comment_63809 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=63809#Comment_63809 Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:03:10 +0100 Paul in Montreal
Paul in Montreal.

p.s. I presume emulsion is the same as what we call "latex" over here? Water-based acrylic resin paint? Even gloss paint over here is water based now largely as I read some companies are going to stop making alkyd based paint altogether]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64101#Comment_64101 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64101#Comment_64101 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:13:43 +0100 wellburn 1 they don't know what 'alkyd primer' is
2 laytex paints are not available in the UK

UK emulsion is vinyl based , - but apparently this is not laytex - will it still do the same job ?

Re primer - they have recommended 'Alkali Resist Primer/sealer' for this job. Apparently it is VERY smelly but I don't know about the volatiles, - will this stink my house out and give us all headaches ?
Crown recommend wood primer on the wood

As a top coat Crown recommend Oil Based Eggshell finish paint as best resist to moisture

All these paints are quite 'chemical' so is this good advice, currently the plaster/joint/gaps are still open so I have a condensation risk. I have to do somthing to finish all the work I have done, - just want to get it right.

Finally, - is a bathroom/kitchen type emulsion (vinyl silk) adequate ? - not to smelly, fast drying, and made for a steamy moisture laiden enviromnent?
PLEASE !]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64103#Comment_64103 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64103#Comment_64103 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:31:02 +0100 Paul in Montreal http://www.house-painting-info.com/alkyd-primer.html
2 - maybe latex is the North American term for emulsion: http://www.paintcenter.org/rj/may05f.cfm
However, latex emulsions are thinned by adding water, alkyd emulsions by adding white spirit etc.

Seems that latex acrylic paints are harder wearing than vinyl paints: http://dundean.com/tips_what_is_latex_paint.shtml

Over here acrylic latex is available in flat, eggshell, pearl and semi-gloss finishes. I seem to recall from my time in the UK that vinyl paints are either "matt" or "silk" and that only oil paints provided the gloss finishes.

I would avoid oil based paints if you can, but oil-based primers are supposed to be vapour proof.

For the sort of primers we have over here, see http://benjaminmoore.com/bmpsweb/portals/bmps_en_ca.portal?_nfpb=true&_windowLabel=contentrenderer_1_3&contentrenderer_1_3_actionOverride=%2Fbm%2Fcms%2FContentRenderer%2FrenderContent&contentrenderer_1_3cnp=public_site%2Farticles%2Fproducts_specs%2Ffp_fh_interior_ca&contentrenderer_1_3np=public_site%2Farticles%2Fproduct_articles_ca%2Fpa_int_primers_premium_ca&_pageLabel=fh_findproducts_ca

For regular interior paints see http://benjaminmoore.com/bmpsweb/portals/bmps_en_ca.portal?_nfpb=true&_windowLabel=contentrenderer_1_3&contentrenderer_1_3_actionOverride=%2Fbm%2Fcms%2FContentRenderer%2FrenderContent&contentrenderer_1_3cnp=public_site%2Farticles%2Fproducts_specs%2Ffp_fh_int_paints_ca&contentrenderer_1_3np=public_site%2Farticles%2Fproduct_articles_ca%2Fpa_int_collection_ca&_pageLabel=fh_findproducts_ca

and for low VOC paint see: http://benjaminmoore.com/bmpsweb/portals/bmps_en_ca.portal?_nfpb=true&_windowLabel=contentrenderer_1_3&contentrenderer_1_3_actionOverride=%2Fbm%2Fcms%2FContentRenderer%2FrenderContent&contentrenderer_1_3cnp=public_site%2Farticles%2Fmain_page_articles%2Ffh_findproducts_ca&contentrenderer_1_3np=public_site%2Farticles%2Fproduct_articles%2Fpa_int_natura_ca&_pageLabel=fh_findproducts_ca

(sorry for the long URLs)

Hope this helps.

Paul in Montreal.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64104#Comment_64104 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64104#Comment_64104 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:36:34 +0100 bot de paille https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64106#Comment_64106 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=4662&Focus=64106#Comment_64106 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:44:22 +0100 Paul in Montreal Posted By: bot de pailleIsnt latex called arylic in the UK?

Seems that, over here at least, latex is just a word to describe an emulsion. It can be made with vinyl resins (cheap and not so hard wearing) or with acrylic resins (more expensive and hard wearing) or a mix of the two. Looks like paint that says "100% acrylic" is best for high traffic areas. I found out, to my surprise, that "latex" doesn't mean the paint has any actual latex in it at all!

Hope this helps decode some of my earlier posts on this topic.

Paul in Montreal]]>