Mon, 15 Jun 2026 13:26:45 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87508#Comment_87508 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87508#Comment_87508 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:49 +0100 marsaday
I bought all C16 in 3.6m lengths, but they gave me 4.8m lengths and half in C24. so i got an extra 72m in length i didnt need at a price of £1.80 /m which = £150 approx they have given me.

Very strange, but it was what they had in stock. I got a good price as well for the timber so not sure how they can afford to give away so much. I have had to chain saw the joist up and will use some of the cut offs for noggins, but a lot will be wasted.

They must be making a lot on timber to give it away.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87510#Comment_87510 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87510#Comment_87510 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:47:35 +0100 Joiner
Works the other way too, which used to REALLY piss me off. Would order five lengths of 8' x 8" x 4" and get delivered five lengths of 10' x 10" x 5". Couldn't return because of tightness of time, so about £80 out of the profit on that job which I wouldn't get back until I could "lose" that extra on the next job, assuming the sections to be cut left enough useable stock, otherwise it was £80-worth of firewood.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87513#Comment_87513 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87513#Comment_87513 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:51:35 +0100 tony
I have had a row about this myself with timber suppliers.

you can be sure that they will not be making a loss on the deal.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87514#Comment_87514 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87514#Comment_87514 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:14:41 +0100 marsaday
But i have just checked and i have been charged for half the load and the other half was a freebie .So i have paid for 39m at £1.80 plus vat extra.

Just phoned and they will credit me for the 39m though and the manager is not so happy with his employee !]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87522#Comment_87522 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87522#Comment_87522 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:26:30 +0100 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87524#Comment_87524 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87524#Comment_87524 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:13:01 +0100 CWatters https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87526#Comment_87526 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87526#Comment_87526 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:30:13 +0100 bot de paille https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87527#Comment_87527 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87527#Comment_87527 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:39:52 +0100 marsaday
I have plenty of wood for noggins now though :)]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87542#Comment_87542 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87542#Comment_87542 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:05:06 +0100 Jeff B https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87550#Comment_87550 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87550#Comment_87550 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:20:18 +0100 evan
Douglas fir, lovely stuff. And straight. And about 1/4th the price of the builders' merchant.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87555#Comment_87555 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87555#Comment_87555 Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:38:09 +0100 fostertom
AFAIK absolutely nothing can beat the ridiculously low price £6/ft3 of imported kiln dried heavily-planed round-edged stress graded so-called timber that might as well be made of recycled milk cartons, for all the life it's got in it. None of it is UK sourced. Nowadays AFAIK it can be relied upon to have come from sustainably managed sources.

To get the equivalent nothing-special dried C16/C24 softwood UK sourced costs twice as much, from a local sawmill. To do the whole felling and mobile sawmill thing costs much more again - unless by a helpful family member and you do the drying etc yourself.

The picture changes once you get into finer softwoods like douglas fir , larch, western red cedar (not talking hardwoods). Imported and kiln dried these are much more expensive, and in the case of US/Canadian cedar, the best of it, fine grained, is from old-growth forests, with serious sustainability concerns.

This can be UK sourced at similar price, from local sawmills. If you can use it green, or take delivery and air-dry it for a year (or two) yourself, then it's the cheapest way of sourcing these timbers. but fixing/chippy costs may be higher, especially using it green, sawn - that's very economical as long your chippy knows how to use green timber, allow for its shrinkage and movement, and ot charge extra for that - and if you like the sawn look with gappy joints, shakes and warpage - I do! but it's a difficult and unfamiliar path to take.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87858#Comment_87858 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=87858#Comment_87858 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:33:27 +0100 jonharris
So glad I did this. Takes time, effort, and money, but gives you a nice sense of pride, and the cherry is looking fab now it's starting to try out. Lovely colour and grain.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88075#Comment_88075 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88075#Comment_88075 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:33:02 +0100 Julian https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88076#Comment_88076 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88076#Comment_88076 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:41:25 +0100 squowse Posted By: JulianHave got fed up with the quality of imported CLS that I have been using on a small building so I went to a sawmill and got some 9"x2" larch for the rafters. The timber is green - please can anyone give me an idea what range the shrinkage might be over a length 3.6m (the width of the building)?
almost nothing on the length. the shrinkage occurs across the grain. i would restrain it well against bowing and twisting side to side along it's length. otherwise no particular precautions.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88078#Comment_88078 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88078#Comment_88078 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:45:18 +0100 Timber
Just use noggings between rafters at 1/3rd and 2/3rd span. That should reduce twisting (although it will, all timber does to some extent). If you are insulating between rafters, that obviously not really an option.

Timber]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88079#Comment_88079 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6180&Focus=88079#Comment_88079 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:53:04 +0100 Julian